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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Anil and All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Those floundering in a sea of conceptual error are clinging to the lifebuoy of ‘clean fuels’. It will not save them. Ethanol is frequently listed
as a ‘clean fuel’ when as you point out, it can be anything but.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I was measuring CO emissions with a couple of trainees developing an ethanol stove (in California). By making very small changes to the ring of metal
surrounding the fire, the CO level could be raised or lowered at will.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The ethanol gel fires under a
<i>bain marie</i> which is the hot food serving tub seen at buffet lunches are not ‘clean’ at all. The CO/CO<sub>2</sub> ratio is about 6% which is triple the limit for indoor cooking fires in most countries with regulations on such things (Germany, South Africa).
<i>Bains marie</i> are not a regulated cooking appliance in any country I know of.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The pretty well-known CleanCook stove appeared at the ETHOS meeting and after demonstrating that the CO was far too high, it was shown that after
raising the pot 40mm to give the flame some breathing space, it fell to a low level. This change was incorporated into the design and that is what you can buy today. It is another example of ETHOS contributing to the development of good cooking products.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There are no clean fuels and there are no clean stoves. There are only clean stove-fuel-operating context combinations which is why I am a big supporter
of contextual testing as evinced by the CSI test method, with all that that entails.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">At present some dozens of stoves are being tested for rollout in Hebei Province in China. The pilot project will distribute 800,000 of them. They
are being tested (rated) burning raw coal from Shanxi Province because that is what something like 85% of the users burn in them, even though they are nominally ‘semi-coke briquette burning stoves’ only. So why are we testing them using a fuel that is not
recommended? Because that is the local context and we want to <i>reduce</i> the emissions in the whole province, not
<i>claim</i> to reduce the emissions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It is illegal to burn raw coal in Hebei; that is the legal context. Most of the people living in rural areas do exactly that. That is the actual
context. We want actual results, not ‘legal’ results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What the testing shows (fortunately) is that some of the product can burn raw coal really well (low PM2.5), even though they were ostensibly ‘designed’
to burn semi-coked briquettes. So, obviously we will support the distribution of those which burn both really well and meet a certain fuel efficiency which is assessed using the National Standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">To answer Nikhil’s question about who’s problem it is, it is Beijing’s problem. Having done really well cleaning up their own air, they are suffering
from the emissions of their neighbouring province.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As for ‘what is smoke’, it is unburned fuel. PM2.5 can be much more than unburned fuel as it could be ash or road dust or any other fine particles
including droplets of condensed liquids. Breathing unburned fuel is a bad idea. How bad? That is the $64,000 question. After a decade of being told that it causes childhood pneumonia and that reducing it at least 90% was necessary to get a meaningful change
in the hazard, a major study in Malawi shows that such a reduction in emissions from the stove had no statistically detectable effect at all.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There are several possible reasons for this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The exposure was much less that supposed and/or reducing the emissions didn’t change it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The emissions from the claimed >90% reducing stoves were in fact not >90%<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The test method employed to assess the emissions was irrelevant to the context in the field (i.e. WBT)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The test method reported the emissions rate using a metric that was poorly chosen/irrelevant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Childhood pneumonia is not caused or aggravated by stove smoke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Children are not exposed to stove smoke in the same way adults are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Children are not exposed to stove smoke in proportion to its emission from the stove<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While children are theoretically exposed to stove smoked when modelled using a single box, instantaneous distribution, equal exposure model,
the model grossly over-predicts their actual exposure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This last point is so silly, and the usefulness of the WHO’s (Berkeley’s) single box model contradicted by the WHO committee’s own discussion notes,
that it bears receiving special emphasis. If stove smoke has a real effect on children, defined as incidence of pneumonia, and the model of exposure is as facile as that used by the WHO, then one can expect field results to contradict model results. The single
box model, discarded as long ago as 1982 by the Eindhoven Stoves Group, over-estimates the exposure of adults to stove smoke by at a factor of more than 2, at least, and children live near the floor where exposure is even lower. That figure of 2 is compared
with a three box model, which is itself not a very good representation of exposure. We cannot be too surprised that there is no detectable effect on children’s health when ‘90% reduction’ stoves are used in the home.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Burns, on the other hand, are easily reduced by enclosing the fire, whether there are reduced emissions or not. Reducing emissions of smoke can easily
increase emissions of CO if there is also a fuel change. Ethanol burned badly is a toxic fuel, particularly because it makes very little smoke (or none) when it generates high CO, which has no smell or colour.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It would not surprise me at all that people using a poor ethanol stove in enclosed surroundings get a headache. There are lots of organic compounds
that can be produced from hot, evaporated ethanol. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Context is everything. Rate accordingly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anil: <br>
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Let me throw some questions at you. I hope you reply, because then I will respond accordingly. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. What is "smoke"? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. What is the proper measure of "clean"? Who decides, why and how? Why does it matter if some stove is "clean", to whom and traded off against what other criteria to choose to purchase or use? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for ethanol stoves, why aren't ethanol stoves "clean enough"? Because they have high 15-minute emission rates for CO? <o:p></o:p></p>
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It's exposures that matter, not emissions. Or emission rates. This is why the ISO IWA exercise is "fundamental folly" without a context. I do agree with the principle of testing and ranking stoves in terms of desired qualities. I just don't believe that by
itself, boiling water does anything but feed the researchers. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope someone else tells me what "smoke" means. There is too much of blowing rings about stoves and smoke. <o:p></o:p></p>
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