<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000; font-size:10pt;"><div>I have written to the Director of the NIH about this study, and have not heard back. Sometimes going straight to the top works, but not this time, apparently. </div><div><br></div><div>What I would like to know is whether anyone in this community of practice was part of the discussions around this research. At the price tag, this is the single largest cookstove study that I've ever heard of. Anyone know of a larger one? </div><div><br></div><div>Anyone know which stove models are going to be studied? </div><div><br></div><div>Anyone know how the countries were selected (and Africa was somehow missed)? </div><div><br></div><div>Is there any clarity on this? I feel pretty blindsided. I just spoke with a Gates Senior Program officer who retired last month. She reaffirmed what I'd heard before: "No way" that Gates can fund cookstoves. Yet this week...this. </div><div><br></div><div>How did this happen? When will details come out? </div><div><br></div><div>Anyone have any insights? Would love to be more informed, but feeling pretty blindsided now. Echoing Nikhil's disappointment if this historically-well-funded study by the largest US Foundation turns out to be a paean to LPG. </div><div><br></div><div>Would prefer an LPG swan song (re: Nikhil's "wild goose chase").</div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div>
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] NIH and Gates Foundation-Funded Research to<br>
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From: Traveller <<a href="mailto:miata98@gmail.com">miata98@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, November 04, 2016 5:15 pm<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Tom: </div><div><br></div><div>This is to cook White House South Lawn meals for the researchers of "links" and "associations" that WHO and GACC can later call "causes". <br><br>It is a "multi-country trial to investigate the correlation between home use of clean cookstoves using liquefied petroleum gas and its measurable health benefits, particularly for women and children."<br><br>Duh!! Why? Don't most cooks want to switch to LPG? This isn't like measuring - if at all possible - "health benefits" - whatever they may be - of newfangled biomass or coal stoves, and then marketing them for the health benefits. If users are going to switch to LPG or electricity anyway, I suppose NIH could get into the health damage due to LPG and electricity. After all, the Empire Promotion Agency has declared that GHGs "endanger" American public's health. <br><br>Coming to think of it, maybe this is an ideological response to the anti-carbon nuts who claim LPG is to be avoided as a "fossil fuel" and "renewable biomass" be pursued exclusively, no matter its health and environmental effects (land, water and labor use, plus reliance on livestock for manure)? </div><div><br></div><div>Only in America. How amusing and sad. </div><div><br></div>This is a - what? Wild goose chase? Going up alleys known to be blind? <div><br></div><div>Or confirming the obvious, but subjecting the control group to continue to suffer the health damage? <br><br>What are they going to do with the LPG option offered to users who participate in the study? Take the cylinders and stoves back? </div><div><br></div><div>Why even bother, since Kirk Smith says, LPG is "<font face="georgia, serif" size="4">the fuel that could save millions of lives every year. • By definition!</font>" (<a target="_blank" href="http://ehsdiv.sph.berkeley.edu/krsmith/Presentations/2016/SRU%20Oct%2016%20used.pdf">Environmental Health in India:What are the issues and what is India doing about it?</a> Sri Ramachandra University, Chennai October 6, 2016.)</div><div><br></div><div>All I can say is that the glory of Gates in the Global Burden of Disease - Killing by Assumption - is enhanced by the US government. Keeps Washington (DC and State) busy. </div><div><br></div><div>Nikhil</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail-m_1964350880737751544gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:12.8px"><br>------- </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br> <br> ------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>----------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 11:14:30 -0700<br> From: "Tom Miles" <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com" target="_blank">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>><br> To: "'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'"<br> <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.o<wbr>rg</a>><br> Subject: [Stoves] NIH and Gates Foundation-Funded Research to Measure<br> Health Benefits of Clean Cookstoves<br> Message-ID: <018f01d233a2$a13661e0$e3a325a<wbr>0$@<a href="http://trmiles.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">trmiles.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br> <br> <a href="http://cleancookstoves.org/about/news/10-25-2016-nih-and-gates-foundation-funded-research-to-measure-health-benefits-of-clean-cookstoves.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cleancookstoves.org/abo<wbr>ut/news/10-25-2016-nih-and-gat<wbr>es-foundation-fu<br> nded-research-to-measure-healt<wbr>h-benefits-of-clean-cookstoves<wbr>.html</a><br> <br> - </blockquote></div></div></div></div> <hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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