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Frank,<br>
<br>
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, wood can be a clean fuel,
meaning that it can be quite cleanly burned (specifically referring
to TLUD stoves). <br>
<br>
Fuel preparation for TLUD stoves is becoming much less of an issue,
and is different in different areas. Much depends on proper
introduction of the TLUD stoves AND having sufficient numbers of
users who are close to each other (attaining "critical mass" that
stimulates local support efforts). <br>
<br>
Also to be included along with the Champion TLUD are the Mimi-Moto
TLUD and the soon-to-be piloted FAABulous TLUD, both with forced air
and using pellet fuel. PELLET FUEL is an answer to having proper
fuel and great results. And the economic viability of pellet fuel
has been established for at least some meaningfully sized markets,
and more markets are coming.<br>
<br>
And funding via carbon credits (as shown in the Deganga TLUD study)
has potential for major impact, and eventually (I hope) to be
supportive of the lab and <u>appropriate </u>testing that you
mention.<br>
<br>
Note: These and other topics will be included in my SPECIAL SESSION
at ETHOS this year. (Saturday evening, full block of time.) More
details will be available soon. One of the major topics is about
TLUD stove potential for Haiti!!! And also making electricity
using the charcoal from TLUD stoves.<br>
<br>
Frank, I hope you can make it to ETHOS this year.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/7/2017 10:31 AM, Frank Shields
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Pemberton-Pigott <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">What on earth is a “clean fuel”?<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="">Thanks<br class="">
Crispin</span></div>
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<div>Its biomass uniformly prepared, sized and with proper
combustion characteristics known suitable for a specific
stove. </div>
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<div>We cannot complain about what other groups are doing with
all the money allocated to them for improving biomass stoves
and cleaner air until we give them a direction to go in. Not
having a direction and complaining just goes in circles - as
we have been doing for YEARS! The only direction (for now) is
“What Preparation is Required for a Biomass to work in Paul’s
Champion TLUD Stove? And How Best is That Done?”</div>
<div><br class="">
</div>
<div>There is a big pile of biomass from a local community -
what do we need to know about it and how best to size it for
the Champion? </div>
<div><br class="">
</div>
<div>We need (1) an equipped PRIVATE lab (no Universities) (2)
creative personal (3) the stove (4) the biomass (5) money -
and funders need to know this is research and not all research
ends in grand success (as required by Universities). Ten steps
backwards and one forward. The one’s forward add up over time.
</div>
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<div>Frank</div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;" class="" lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stoves [<a
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style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"
class="">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Traveller<br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>7-Jan-17 09:24<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Discussion
of biomass cooking stoves <<a
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Stoves] News:
GACC and CCAP launch "Urban Health and
Short-Lived-Climate-Pollutants Reduction Project.”<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
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href="http://cleancookstoves.org/about/news/12-20-2016-alliance-promotes-climate-and-health-co-benefits-of-cookstoves.html"
target="_blank" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">Alliance
promotes climate and health co-benefits of
cookstoves</a>, 20 December 2016.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></h1>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">"To influence
policy decisions of relevant ministries in
Ghana, the Alliance is working with
leading experts and partners, including
Berkeley Air Monitoring Group,
UrbanEmissions, and Dr. Ajay Pillarisetti
to measure the burden of disease from
household air pollution in Accra, the
contribution of household energy
consumption to ambient air pollution, and
the potential reductions in exposure and
resulting burden of disease due to a range
of household energy interventions."<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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I suppose you all know the story of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.worldstory.net/en/stories/chicken_little.html"
target="_blank" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">Chicken
Little</a>. For that chicken, "The sky is
falling, the sky is falling!"<br class="">
<br class="">
For our Global Alliance of Confident
Chickens - it is "Look, look! I am carrying
the sky over my head."<br class="">
<br class="">
In its<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cleancookstoves.org/resources/reports/2016progress.html"
target="_blank" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">2016
Progress Report</a>, it boasts"Based on
results reported by partners this year and
careful analyses of the trends in available
data, an estimated 20.6 million stoves and
fuels were distributed in 2015, of which 13
million (63%) were clean and/or efficient."
(See chart below). <br class="">
<br class="">
What did GACC have to do with it, and how
did it cook up these numbers - total,
"clean", "efficient"? I even wonder what
"distributed" means and why the "Global
Total Stove and Fuel Distribution" was
supposedly close to zero in 2010 and is
projected to rise to 300 million by 2020
[What kind of brainlessness does it take to
imply "300 million fuel"?] <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">For Ghana, it says
"Ghana has seen steady advancement in
transforming the cookstoves and fuels sector
in 2016. As part of the government’s efforts
to reduce deforestation and provide a
cleaner cooking fuel, Ghana’s Petroleum
Minister Hon. Emmanuel Buah launched a
program to provide households with cooking
gas connections. The program has distributed
70,000 LPG cylinders to families across six
regions."<br class="">
<br class="">
WHOA!! Ghana started LPG production in 1981
and had<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="https://www.esmap.org/sites/esmap.org/files/Rpt_Ghanalpgquayefoli.pdf"
target="_blank" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">600,000
LPG cylinders in 1997</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>already.
What if anything did GACC have to do with
these 70,000 cylinders? (Give GACC CEO -
potentate - credit for giving no credit in
the Progress Report to any other GACC staff.
Did she hire them?) <br class="">
<br class="">
Now Ghana is going to have<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-25/ge-venture-to-build-world-s-largest-lpg-power-plant-in-ghana"
target="_blank" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">the
world's largest LPG-fired power plant</a>.
Credit to GACC? <br class="">
<br class="">
Is GACC a marketer for BAMG and vice versa?
These two private organizations are
gallivanting around the world to drum up
more money for themselves. All in the name
of the poor and without a mandate or
competence. <br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Any pretense that
some HAPIT modeling will show enough "health
co-benefits" to "influence policy decisions
of relevant ministries in Ghana" betrays
utter ignorance of last 100 years' history
of shifting cooking to gas and electricity,
in and outside the homes. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class="">Nobody has to date
published any quantified claims of health
benefits of modern energy transitions in the
rich countries over that period. <o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><br class="">
But somehow it is only the poor who need
expert lecturing - and well-baked models -
to be convinced, of "potential" reductions
in the burden of disease. <br class="">
<br class="">
What is the baseline for the burden of
disease? Under what assumptions? How long
will this charade go on? <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class="">And
why is GACC babbling "a range of
household energy interventions" in Accra
when, from whatever I can tell, all it
can take credit for in Ghana is on gas. <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New
Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class="">Why
don't we call it Global Alliance for Gas
[GAG]?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class=""><br
class="">
Because it is a one-person radio of the
Global Alliance for Boast [GAB]? <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class=""><br
class="">
For all her appearances, is GACC a
one-woman show? <br class="">
<br class="">
Well, Hillary is another one. Though now<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/opinion/sunday/rumors-of-hillary-clintons-comeback.html"
target="_blank" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">she
is said to be mulling NYC mayorship</a>. <br
class="">
<br class="">
There is plenty of PM2.5 in NYC.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/environmental/comm-air-survey-08-14.pdf"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">SO2 levels have
declined</a> recently but PM2.5 levels
still remain high near boilers. The
queens of Chappaqua and Washington can
partner with Trump Organization to
replace all the boilers with electricity
- solar and wind - or build new real
estate. Win, Win, Win!! Goldman Sachs is
drooling. <br class="">
<br class="">
Nikhil<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class=""><br
class="">
PS: I like the idea of SLCP reduction;
wrote a concept note back in 2005.Ghana
became one of the pioneering members of
something called clean air and climate
coalition (or some other mixture of
these words), started by or under the
leadership of Hillary circa 2011. Jerry
Brown has signed in an SLCP law. GACC
and BAMG are probably looking to
monetize health and climate benefits
from every gas stove for individual
customers and take a middleman's cut.
Poverty mixed with ignorance and absence
of laws is a gold mine. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class="">Source:
GACC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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