<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Adam et al:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I respond only because I seem be the main spokesperson (on this list - not in the ISO space) for the WBT. I agree with you on the need for discussion. I have been changing my Sunday 10 minute time allotment to put in a few ideas on the WBT. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Two requests for you and other users of WBT 4.2.3 (which is found at <a href="http://cleancookstoves.org/technology-and-fuels/testing/protocols.html" class="">http://cleancookstoves.org/technology-and-fuels/testing/protocols.html</a>):</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1) Can you (anyone) report on how well the WBT has supported your own internal testing. Can you think of any approach better than heating/boiling water to come up with fuel consumption comparisons between stoves?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>2) You don’t include char-making in your instate products - but it would seem logical to do so - since doing so would seem to save time and possibly greatly reduce the costs of your heater operations; can you (every user of the WBT 4.2.3 test) comment on whether you think the “denominator equation” (which I am trying to save) makes sense? And why or why not?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I look forward to seeing you (and Fred Colgan?) at ETHOS.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 23, 2017, at 9:57 PM, <a href="mailto:adam@instove.org" class="">adam@instove.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><div class="">I think a discussion of what the WBT is, how it is conducted, how the results are used (why they matter) as well as some of the criticisms and answers to these criticisms by practitioners, perhaps during Stoves 101 (I've invited a lot of stove newbies this year) would help all of us as a sector to frame the discussion. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] ETHOS 2017 agenda and logistics<br class="">
From: Andrew Heggie <<a href="mailto:aj.heggie@gmail.com" class="">aj.heggie@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
Date: Mon, January 23, 2017 10:15 am<br class="">
To: "Derby, Elisa" <<a href="mailto:ederby@winrock.org" class="">ederby@winrock.org</a>><br class="">
Cc: Xavier Brandao <<a href="mailto:xvr.brandao@gmail.com" class="">xvr.brandao@gmail.com</a>>, Discussion of biomass<br class="">
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On 23 January 2017 at 17:43, Derby, Elisa <<a href="mailto:ederby@winrock.org" class="">ederby@winrock.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> Hi Xavier,<br class="">
> The ETHOS agenda is participant-led; all of the talks on the agenda are there because the presenter submitted an abstract. There is no WBT discussion on the agenda because no participants proposed it as a topic. If any participant attending ETHOS would like to lead a discussion on the WBT, there are available slots during the Saturday Open Space sessions-- sign-up for those are at the event.<br class="">
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Thanks for the reply to Xavier Elisa, we'll have to see if the offer<br class="">
gets taken up.<br class="">
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I hope all you going to ETHOS have an illuminating discussion.<br class="">
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Andrew<br class="">
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