<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Cecil,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">You presume that we only have existing mechanisms. This is a straw man argument and is likely to be false..</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Remember, the world around "benefits sell", not technology. Not features. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">It is up to us to create the benefits that sell. We may have to create quite a few things in order to create the benefits. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Regards,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Jock</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:43 PM, <a href="mailto:cec1863@gmail.com">cec1863@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dear CPP, Jock, Paul, et al,</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I think I gave my best response to your question in my next to last post to the list‎ on the topic of CO2 drawdown (re Jock) which began with Occam's razor.</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Specifically I think it is unseemly for Euro American stove scientists and unelected Foundations funded by very rich titans of industry and their political allies to be inserting indicators into stove performance tests which turn the stove into a technology which minimizes CO2 and black carbon production when there is no cultural consciousness, interest or recognized personal benefit to the stove buyer from reducing the stove users carbon footprint. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The notion seems to be that if we monetize the benefit to the planetary ecosystem by giving a cost for each ton of CO2 buried in the ground which indirectly helps pay for the stove and also the stove NGOs - or through the sale of charcoal to nearby cooks using braziers - it seems to me we are on the verge of becoming delusional. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Why say that? Because of the fragi</div></div></blockquote></body></html>