<html><head></head><body lang="en-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Dear stove test Reformationists & Protestants,</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">It seems some of the first generation stove test insiders are having second thoughts about what metrics and procedures constitute the best ensemble of technical and socio-cultural indicators for assessing the appropriateness of different stoves. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">It seems that more and more stovers are, indeed, slowly learning about the need to incorporate variations in:<span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><ul><li><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">the expectations of stove operators, </span></li><li><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">endemic skills of indigenous stove users, </span></li><li><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;">different tasks people demand their stove to perform,</span></li><li><span style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"></span><span style="line-height: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial;">fuel quality which stoves must handle, and </span></li><li><span style="line-height: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial;">the culture of food and cooking </span></li></ul><span style="line-height: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial;">Together</span><span style="line-height: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial;"> these variables define an ideal context for cooking and stove use services which can be used to specify a series of contextually appropriate stove performance tests. </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">Properly contextualized stove performance testing makes it possible to predict probable demand for different stoves by particular stove using groups based on their traditional stove technologies, uses, foods, fuels, etc. </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">Surely the mission is to equitably test alternative stove technologies by identifying contextualized tests that are appropriate to the culture of stove use, fuels, foods and work tasks in different parts of the world. Therefore, we are searching for the same stove metrics used by indigenous cooks and stove users to decide whether they will buy, make, use, or reject a candidate stove.....because the stove customer is king, so to speak even where stove users make their own stoves or is nothing more than a 3 stone fire and pot under a tree. </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">We need to construct our stove performance assessment protocols out of a balanced mix of bottom up indigenous and top down universal /scientific indicators of small household stove performance. </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">Surely by now we all know that our metrics and protocols must combine both culturally specific and scientifically universal indicators of stove performance. It seems we now probably have enough experience with successful and failed stove improvement programs to identify and rank order the main reasons given by families and cooks for accepting some innovative stoves and rejecting others. </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">We need to generalize the make or break stove performance variables from the stove users point of view. A representative sample of stove users need to be trained to use a spectrum of different improved stoves and then asked to rate their relative performance along different dimensions of cooking and stove use experience. With this feedback in hand it will be possible to predict stove consumers' acceptance, purchase and use of innovative stoves. This is social, behavioral, and marketing sciences, not the physical science of improved stoves. We need both to achieve our objectives of desiging, fabricating, marketing, disseminating, servicing, and institutionalizing improved stoves in particular markets. But now there are many different "cooks" involved in this complex consultation. </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">In search, </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;">Cecil the Cook</span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: initial; line-height: initial; text-align: initial;"> </span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.</div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>Ranyee Chiang <rchiang@cleancookstoves.org></div><div><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:38 PM</div><div><b>To: </b>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves</div><div><b>Reply To: </b>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] Differences in stove testing</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The IWA meeting in the Hague was now 5 year ago, so I can see that it would be difficult to remember exactly what happened. The issue of who provided input into the IWA is an important one, so I think it is
important to correct misrepresentations of what happened. During the IWA meeting, all the participants from about 20 countries went through the entire IWA draft line by line, word by word. There were opportunities for people to exclude the Tiers at that
time, but that was not raised by any of the participants. The participants also developed resolutions which were reviewed and approved by all the participants at the end of the meeting. The draft of the IWA was developed by mostly experts from the US. There
were also 3 webinars prior to the IWA meeting in the Hague to collect and integrate input from a wide group of stakeholders. And then of course, during the IWA, participants were welcome to and did comment on every single part of the IWA.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It is still true that the current ISO process has more thorough than the IWA, but the process was not as Tami described in her e-mail.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Ranyee<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>From:</b> "Bond, Tami C" <<a href="mailto:yark@illinois.edu">yark@illinois.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> February 13, 2017 at 11:41:27 PM EST<br>
<b>To:</b> "Ronal W. Larson" <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Discussion of biomass <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Stoves] Differences in stove testing</b><br>
<b>Reply-To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ron, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I so much appreciate your feedback!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To be clear, I am not looking for other metrics— some have already been proposed in WG1— although your discussions will likely be fruitful and possibly taken up later. I am ONLY, at this time, looking for precedents for defining an energy
efficiency or thermal efficiency in the way that has been previously described, with a subtraction in the denominator. Other questions may come later; I believe it’s wise to take one thing at a time— focus helps. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I leave the question of Tiers for further discussion on this list. It is not under discussion (within WG1) at this time, although perhaps it will come later.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since you were not in The Hague to witness the process of the IWA, I suggest that perhaps you might not want to lean on it as support. No opportunities were offered to modify the IWA document, but only to provide resolutions preceding it.
Therefore, even if the assembled company had wished to exclude the Tiers, they would have been unable to do so. The current ISO process has a more thorough discussion, and includes more international stakeholders, than did the IWA, which was largely written
only by members of the United States delegation. I encourage you to wait for coming documents before claiming that any particular position is supported by the entire international community.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tami<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ranyee Chiang, Ph.D.</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Director of Standards, Technology and Fuels</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="tel:1-202-448-4677"><span style="color:#1F497D">1.202.448.4677</span></a>
<a href="skype:ranyee.chiang?add"><span style="color:#1F497D">Skype: ranyee.chiang</span></a></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:rchiang@cleancookstoves.org"><span style="color:#1F497D">rchiang@cleancookstoves.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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