<div dir="auto">hi Paul,<div dir="auto">I am here in the list.</div><div dir="auto">What can I do for you?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">best,</div><div dir="auto">iwan baskoro</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 23, 2017 8:37 PM, "Paul Anderson" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Stovers,<br>
<br>
I am trying to reach each of the men named below: Zhang, Durix,
Baskoro and Dong. associated with a recent (undated, but probably
late-2016) conference presentation:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">TOWARD UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO CLEAN COOKING<br>
INDONESIA CLEAN STOVE INITIATIVE<br>
Prepared by<br>
Yabei ZHANG (Task Team Leader)<br>
&<br>
Laurent DURIX (Co-Task Team Leader)<br>
Presented by<br>
Yohanes Iwan Baskoro<br>
Biomass Energy Promotion Practitioner<br>
at 2016 Forum of Renewable Energy Promotion in Developing
Countries<br>
Beijing, People’s Republic of China</blockquote>
The chairman of the Forum was Dr.<font size="-1"> Renjie Dong</font><br>
<br>
This is an extremely interesting and valuable 27-slide PowerPoint
presentation that I read last night. I am trying to determine the
following:<br>
<br>
1. Is this presentation available on the Internet? Will it be, by
whom? <br>
2. If not available, can I have permission to place it at one of my
websites and announce its availability?<br>
<br>
3. What are the email contacts for these men? <br>
4. Who has access to the data / results that are summarized in the
presentation? Especially, who has control of the results of the
testing of the thirty stoves (out of over 50 stoves submitted) that
are reported in slides 18 to 22?<br>
<br>
5. Of the 30 stoves tested, 14 are shown with results on slide 19.
16 others were not reported.<br>
<br>
6. In particular, on slide 22, is the following:<br>
"The cleanest and most efficient stoves could not be made available
[in Indonesia's RBF - Results Based Financing - incentive program]
(too expensive for international and production issues for the
Indonesians [stoves])"<br>
<br>
7. In my opinion, this is extremely valuable data, paid for by the
World Bank and others, that have not been released, not even (as far
as I can determine) to the companies that had a stove in that group
of 16. That data should be released, at least to the companies
that submitted stoves. <br>
<br>
8. Note: On slide 19 showing the 14 included stoves, the price
range is from ~US$ 8.50 (two stoves) to ~US$ 17 (five stoves).
Clearly, any stove costing more than US$20 was virtually excluded,
regardless of its performance. For many of those "international
stoves", merely the shipping costs could have made them
non-competitive in the Indonesia program. NOTE: This is NOT a
criticism of the Indonesian efforts, which actually should be highly
commended.<br>
<br>
9. And now as of 2016, we know from the Deganga Case Study (
<a href="http://drtlud.com/deganga2016" target="_blank">drtlud.com/deganga2016</a> ) that a TLUD stove that costs US$32 at the
factory in India (no international shipping charges in this case)
can actually be sold to many thousands of people for only $15 in
projects with carbon credit assistance. With carbon credit
assistance, that stove could have been a major participant in the
Indonesia efforts, and could have begun production in Indonesia by
now. Lost opportunities.<br>
<br>
So, please help me get the cited presentation available for all of
you to read, and to have clear contact with the people in Indonesia
who can provide the requested data.<br>
<br>
By the way, the presentation also has extremely interesting
information about Indonesia's LPG stove project with 54 million (by
2012, so now maybe 60+ million) packages of stove and LPG cylinder
distributed for free.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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