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Michael, Julien and all,<br>
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On 3/8/2017 12:09 AM, Michael N Trevor wrote:<br>
"Sounds like they need to follow up on Richard Stanleys briquettes
from biomass Legacy Foundation"<br>
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I like Richard's (and others) briquettes and methods, but not for
this Bangaldesh effort.<br>
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I disagree about the appropriateness of low density biomass
briquettes in the Akha TLUD. The fuel chamber of the Akha (and
many TLUDs that use woody fuels) is rather small for the low density
briquettes, resulting in<u> quite short</u> operational times for
the pyrolysis in those TLUDs. <br>
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With fewer than 100 Akha units made and in operation, this would not
be a good time for Mahbubul to start work on TWO new efforts: a
larger Akha stove and making low density briquettes.<br>
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About making high density pellets / pucks, that would be ONE new
effort, and that also would divert their efforts from their two
objectives, which are the biochar for agriculture and the
current-size of Akha TLUD that is finding acceptance.<br>
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Everyone should note that the Akha TLUD is already blazing new
trails on two issues which are both quite important and will benefit
from more usage and analysis: <br>
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1. Significant parts of the Akha are made of "non-metal" materials
(whether clay ceramic or cement mixes or someday something else).
Awesome!!<br>
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2. The "fixed position" Akha is not easily moved. So the removal
of the char at the end of pyrolysis is via a trap door of metal.
Wonderful!!!<br>
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Therfore, my recommendation is to bear the extra expense of
purchasing the more expensive wood fuel throughout the whole year.
Put the efforts into the known fuel, such as fuel drying in the
rainy season and encouraging the growing of woody fuel crops,
especially bamboo, a known excellent TLUD fuel.<br>
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Speaking financially, it should (I expect) be easier to get some
donations from biochar enthusiasts and others for the work with
woody fuels than it would be to get funding for pelletizer equipment
(and skilled operators and energy supply, etc) or for making a new
size Akha TLUD or for equipment and time for having a low density
briquette operation that would be focused on solving a half-year
problem (fuel supply for 6 months).<br>
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Let me make the above into a suggestion that people might want to
consider some donations to the Akha TLUD stove efforts in
Bangladesh. If so, you should write directly to Dr. Julien
Winter <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:winter.julien@gmail.com">winter.julien@gmail.com</a> who is in Canada. (He did
NOT ask me to make this suggestion.)<br>
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Note: This current email message will be at the EPosts section
of my website <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a> where you can also see the two-page
document about the Akha TLUD stove and biochar efforts at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.drtlud.com/?resource=prt17200">http://www.drtlud.com/?resource=prt17200</a><br>
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Thanks to Ron for some great suggestions a
couple of emails back.<br>
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It will be worth getting the Biochar User Groups
to experiment with making cakes from wet leaves,
and Crispin's suggestion for co-combusting leaves
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Making leaf cakes would be an improvement for their
traditional stoves as well.<br>
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It is great to get suggestions from all over the
World. Ideas don't fall out of the sky as
inspirations without a causal history. If new ideas
were so easy to get, humanity would not have spent
100,000 years throwing stones at hairy elephants.
Nobody could say, "I have an idea: a gun. Let's just
shoot the bugger."<br>
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