<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Ranyee<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A round robin test program is where a single sample is subdivided and sent to different labs to have the same test protocol conducted. Then the results are sent to an outside person for statistics comparison. Is that what was done? You say there are dozens of people involved? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would like to be one of them if I have the equipment required to do the test protocol you specify. What is that protocol? How much sample do you send out? and where do the results go to? and who are the others involved in the Round Robin program?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for this very needed work.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I look forward to your reply. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Frank</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Frank</div><div class="">Frank Shields</div><div class="">Gabilan Laboratory</div><div class="">Keith Day Company, Inc.</div><div class="">1091 Madison Lane</div><div class="">Salinas, CA 93907</div><div class="">(831) 246-0417 cell</div><div class="">(831) 771-0126 office</div><div class=""><a href="mailto:fShields@keithdaycompany.com" class="">fShields@keithdaycompany.com</a></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Ranyee Chiang <<a href="mailto:rchiang@cleancookstoves.org" class="">rchiang@cleancookstoves.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dear Xavier and all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I thought that I had answered the questions already in my previous e-mails, but happy to clarify. I’m including the text of a message that I sent previously, with additional clarifications. I think it will also be helpful for everyone to remember we all agree that there is important work to do, so hopefully that can collaborative tone can come through in how we all communicate together. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">“We all recognize that there is room to improve, and that is already the starting motivation for ongoing work by many people. There are protocol improvements that are in progress and in discussion, which will be published as soon as they are complete.” <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><i class="">This means that we are not promoting any particular protocol. In fact, we provide<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://cleancookstoves.org/technology-and-fuels/testing/protocols.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">links to multiple testing-related resources from many organizations</a>. As soon as new protocols are completed, we will add those to the website list. And we know that all protocols can be improved, harmonized, and that this needs to be a group effort. And that is happening. The ongoing ISO process is designed to bring together experts with different perspectives into one discussion, and that has already led to quite a few updates that those not participating may not be aware of.<o:p class=""></o:p></i></b></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">“Many RTKCs also participated in a recent round robin testing exercise, with the results supporting how we improve testing methodology and how testing centers establish quality assurance plans. Thanks to the dozens of people who have been contributing their time and expertise over the last few years.” <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><i class="">The biggest challenge now is that there isn’t enough data to make many conclusions. That’s a limiting factor and also why there’s such little detail in the presentation from ETHOS. When RTKCs came together to develop the Round Robin Testing plan, the agreement was that people would share data within this group as a way to help this group to improve. So that is our primary focus. There are ongoing discussions amongst the participating testing centers about the details of the results and implications. We are also still getting data from additional testing centers. The most helpful thing for others would be to try out the RRT instructions and add your data to strengthen the analysis.<o:p class=""></o:p></i></b></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">“We will continue to work with RTKCs to improve methods, testing, and data sharing. For those people who have not been as active in this global collaboration, we continue to invite people to contribute to the ISO discussions, to contribute data to the Round Robin Testing effort, and to contribute data to the Clean Cooking Catalog so that we can continue our analyses on the strengths and areas for improvement.” <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><i class="">If anyone would like to join the ongoing collaborations to improve protocols or using the protocols at testing centers, please contact me directly and separately from the listserv. Because there are so many conversations on the listserv and they’re meant as group messages, it’s easier to track personal e-mails that are sent to individuals. In particular, my suggestions for how to help improve testing protocols are to 1)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://cleancookstoves.org/technology-and-fuels/standards/how-to-participate.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">join the ISO working groups</a>, review the current drafts, and propose specific changes and 2) contribute data to the Round Robin Testing exercise. <o:p class=""></o:p></i></b></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Ranyee<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Xavier Brandao [<a href="mailto:xvr.brandao@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:xvr.brandao@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 13, 2017 12:19 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ranyee Chiang <<a href="mailto:rchiang@cleancookstoves.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rchiang@cleancookstoves.org</a>>; Leslie Cordes <<a href="mailto:lcordes@cleancookstoves.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lcordes@cleancookstoves.org</a>>; Neeraja Penumetcha <<a href="mailto:npenumetcha@cleancookstoves.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">npenumetcha@cleancookstoves.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Stoves] Advocacy action: ask the GACC to stop promoting the WBT<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">Dear Ranyee,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">It seems neither you nor anyone at the GACC wish to reply to the questions I sent in my previous emails. It is a shame, because I think these are simple, straightforward questions, and they are simple to answer.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">I understood the GACC was committed to the highest standards of transparency and accountability.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">But there exist little to no information about the round robin testing, nor how the GACC plans to address the many issues related to stove testing, issues raised by numerous studies. I read the ETHOS presentation about the round robin testing, it leaves most of my questions unanswered.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">There is an urgent need to talk about these issues, work on solutions, and again, this has to be done in other spaces than just the ISO TC 285. There is a need for a strong effort, and we are waiting for the GACC voice on that.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">Given what is at stake, policies for 3 billion people, openness is crucial.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">This is exactly what is very well said by a recently published article of Nature:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/energy-scientists-must-show-their-workings-1.21517" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.nature.com/news/energy-scientists-must-show-their-workings-1.21517</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">"Closed systems hide and perpetuate mistakes." it says.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">WBT mistakes have been perpetuated for years.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">In other sectors, things are moving. The mayors of Paris and London are pushing for new evaluation systems allowing for reliable information on car emissions, so we avoid something like what happened with Volkswagen:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/paris-london-seoul-grade-cars-based-emissions" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/paris-london-seoul-grade-cars-based-emissions</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">The ETHOS presentation about the round robin testing is here:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><a href="http://ethoscon.com/pdf/ETHOS/ETHOS2017/Penumetcha.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ethoscon.com/pdf/ETHOS/ETHOS2017/Penumetcha.pdf</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">According to this presentation, the objectives of the RRT are to:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">"Facilitate collaboration to establish high quality testing and quality assurance procedures<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Ensure consistent and reliable methods and results<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Provide resources and tools to diagnose and troubleshoot issues in the future<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Demonstrate potential for high-quality testing and evaluation services"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">We are not sure how exactly these goals will be achieved. We don't know where the RRT is starting from, where it is going to. Just like the previous communications about the ISO TC 285: we have an idea of how things are organized, but no idea of the actual content, of what is actually being discussed, and decided for the sector. This is a remark I made to you Ranyee, I don't know if you remember, long ago, about the GACC webinar on the TC 285, it might have been June 2015, I think.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">The goal of the RRT is to "Strengthen the sector (not focused on individual testing centers, products, etc.)".<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">The GACC is acting for and on behalf of the stove sector, but I think the sector could have been more involved.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">I understand that the GACC is working with its 22 Regional Knowledge Testing Centers (RKTCs), but what I mean by involvement of the sector does not mean only being asked to provide data. I am talking about being truly consulted and involved in shaping the methodology of the study. To be involved in the decision-making process. It is about bringing different views about state-of-the-art testing, addressing real issues, and involving the top researchers on the matters, like the ones who wrote the studies I quoted earlier.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">I feel that instead of working on the issues brought by the studies, the GACC is working on something else.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">Correct me if I am wrong in my analysis or if I am missing something. But I am not sure how actually the RRT will help solve the questions we have. 22 RKTCs all around the globe will do Water Boiling Tests for 3 different types of cookstoves. A lot of data will be generated. But given the very high variability and uncertainty of WBT results, and the differences likely to occur in the way testing is conducted from one testing center to another (plus the data collected from other actors), how reliable will be the data collected? Is it comparable at all? Is it usable at all?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">And what about other test protocols?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: justify;" class="">Since there is obviously very little will from the GACC to talk openly or to support legitimate and collaborative efforts to move forward, we will continue to discuss the matter, here and in other spaces. We will do so directly with the manufacturers, project implementers, large NGOs, researchers, testing centers, humanitarian agencies, funders, and various partners. We will keep openly critiquing testing, collecting scientific work on this matter, and will keep encouraging collaborative work. Anyone is welcome to join, anytime.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Xavier<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; 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