<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">List:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This is to finish my description of the IU stove-women-environment event that ended last Friday.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="font-family: 'PT Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 14px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); white-space: pre;"> </span></div><div class=""><p style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 20px; font-family: 'PT Sans', sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box;" class="">II. </span><strong style="box-sizing: border-box;" class="">9:00 – 12:30 p.m. - Panel III: Policy and Fuel Use in Developing Countries</strong></p><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This was the final set of four stove-oriented speakers - all with 25 minute time slots. Their bios are mostly at the site <a href="https://international.uiowa.edu/funding/faculty/projects/provosts-global-forum/women’s-health-environment-going-smoke/2017-provost-0" class="">https://international.uiowa.edu/funding/faculty/projects/provosts-global-forum/women%E2%80%99s-health-environment-going-smoke/2017-provost-0</a> </div><div class="">but I have tried to add more sites:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">a.<u class=""><b class=""> Dr. Pam Jagger</b></u> - UNC - Chapel Hill - coming at stoves from a social science perspective.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>See <a href="http://publicpolicy.unc.edu/people/pamela-jagger/" class="">http://publicpolicy.unc.edu/people/pamela-jagger/</a></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>She described a UNC group called FUEL - Forest use - Energy - Livelihoods; </div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>She emphasized her interest was in Africa; talked also about a Carolina Population Center of which her work is a part</div><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Her talk emphasized 5 main ideas (hopefully fairly accurately transcribed). She had plentiful slides and photos for each.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1. “Wood fuels are it, for now and 25-50 years; preferences are strong”</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>2. “LULCC is limiting supply of high quality biomass, and it matters”</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>3. “Practical innovation in delivery of sustainable fuel sources and improved cooking”</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>4. “…. think artful about scope, scale and cost of efforts and what they can deliver”</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>5. “It is not just about cooking”</div><div class="">(There is a great deal more to say about Dr. Jagger’s work - so I’ll come back later on this. She was very knowledgeable on char-making stoves.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">b. <u class=""><b class="">Prof. Rajendra Prasad</b></u> - with IIT in Delhi</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>His was the only bio missing at the bio site given earlier. Here is one site for his bio: <a href="http://crdt.iitd.ac.in/content/prof-prasad-rajendra" class="">http://crdt.iitd.ac.in/content/prof-prasad-rajendra</a></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>He also has extensive experience with gasifiers stoves. </div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>More of his talk was on LPG replacement.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">c. <u class=""><b class="">Madhu Sarin</b></u> Long-time stove activist . She is now a Fellow with a forest preservation group “RRI" (<a href="http://rightsandresources.org/en/#.WPUBglMrI6U" class="">http://rightsandresources.org/en/#.WPUBglMrI6U</a>) & Campaign for Survival & Dignity <a href="https://forestrightsact.com/" class="">https://forestrightsact.com/</a> . Not currently active in any stove program but her bio mentions prior work on a “Nada Chula” that I found at many places, such as <a href="http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/Pnaav641.pdf" class="">http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/Pnaav641.pdf</a>. The key here was adding a chimney. Ms. Sarin described the frustrations of not being given enough support to carry out a relatively low cost means of improving indoor air quality - almost 35 years ago.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">d. <u class=""><b class="">Jichong</b></u><b style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""> Wu</b> the GACC staffer responsible for China see <a href="http://cleancookstoves.org/about/our-team/42.html" class="">http://cleancookstoves.org/about/our-team/42.html</a></div><div class=""> Like India - more than 1 million early stove-related deaths in China; more than 500 stove manufacturers in China</div><div class=""> Mentioned an improved “Kang” stove (A bed heated from below by channels fed from a biomass stove.</div><div class=""> Review of the GACC-coordinated program in China called CCER (Carbon Credit for Emission Reductions). See</div><div class=""> <a href="http://cleancookstoves.org/about/news/12-21-2016-new-stove-and-fuel-innovations-driving-consumer-use-in-china.html" class="">http://cleancookstoves.org/about/news/12-21-2016-new-stove-and-fuel-innovations-driving-consumer-use-in-china.html</a></div><div class=""> Has strong interest in policy topics.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">II. <u class=""><b class="">Discussion Period </b></u>- (covering all three days); Samples of words heard:</div><div class=""> <a href="http://www.cifor.org/" style="font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; orphans: 2; white-space: nowrap; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(102, 0, 153); cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" class="">Center for International Forestry Research</a> (<span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-size: 14px; white-space: nowrap; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><a href="http://www.cifor.org/" class="">www.cifor.org/</a>); </span></div><div class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-size: 14px; white-space: nowrap; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> Using heat pumps for cooking; </span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Kirk Smith: Should not equate increased efficiency with health benefits - in absence of proof.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>can compare stove topics to vaccines for poor - should call support a social investment (as for schools)</div></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> you can’t make gas dirty - (vs solid fuels which can’t make such as strong claim) </div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>stovers should not use the word “subsidy”;</div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Note this was the end of the Friday morning session - no break for about 4 hours. During lunch the IU organizers received thanks from the IU International program.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>After a long break, there was a final session with three writers (previously summarized).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Still coming - some concluding thoughts on this conference</div><div class=""></div></body></html>