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Stovers,<br>
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Nikhil wrote a reply to Crispin and to all of us: (my emphasis
added as PSA: ].)<br>
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<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
happen to think WHO interjection in the ISO TC 285 process - in
particular, Tier 4 PM2.5 hourly average emission rate target -
drives a <u>stake into the heart of solid fuels cookstove effort.
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[</u>PSA: Absolutely correct. Solid fuel ICS stoves are
"Insufficient Cookstoves" with dated combustion technology that
keeps hanging around and pretending to be "improved", an over-used
and no-longer meaningful word. ]</span><o:p></o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So
long as "international standards" and Tier certificates
dominate policy discussions, with GACC insistence (the
Implementation Science paper and previous work for the World
Bank) on "permanent transition and exclusive use of clean
cookstoves", I don't see <u>stovers of the past </u>getting
out and helping users and their governments. <br>
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TC 285 is a "top down" drive [PSA: True] to clear the
market for LPG. [PSA: Not necessarily true, but it is the
reality unless the TLUD / woodgas stoves can get some serious
support.}<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
I am puzzled that Ron, Tom, and other knowledgeable people
fail to <u>see this destruction of biomass stover community.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">[PSA:
Again Nikhil is correct. ICS stoves are not sufficient any
longer. The </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">destruction
of SOLID FUEL
biomass stover community is overdue. Too much time and money
continue to go to weak "solutions" with ICS stoves (which
do not include woodgas/TLUD stoves). See the stove
classification document at <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.drtlud.com/2017/04/11/classification-stove-technologies-fuels/">http://www.drtlud.com/2017/04/11/classification-stove-technologies-fuels/</a>
]</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(BTW,
how much has your "step forward" led to funding increase for
solid fuel stove design and testing efforts in the field? Or
is it still "more of the same", however you choose to
characterize the failures of the last 40 years?) <br>
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[PSA: Please see the classification document cited above.
It is time to rally with support for the existing (but few)
stove designs that can use solid fuel as INITIAL fuel and then
make clean-burning GASES that are the actual fuel for the heat
for cooking (as are the woodgas TLUD stoves.). Otherwise,
just hand over the serious efforts to the LPG advocates.
Nikhil is correct; in the past 40 years the ICS stoves
(including the simple ones and the rocket ones and the
charcoal ones) have not risen to the challenge for even 100
million stoves, even with all the support from the PCIA and
GACC and major donors like Shell Foundation plus the
mega-efforts in past decades in India and China. In
contrast, woodgas/TLUD stoves have been left to starve for
funds, or mis-directed funds. ]<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri">[PSA comments above by
Paul S Anderson]</font> <br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nikhil</span></p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
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