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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dear Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I knew it would get you excited and it is my way of issuing a gentle warming that the ‘emphasis’ on certain types of stoves, or ‘co-benefits’ if you will, is not buying friends outside the stove community.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">As long time readers will realise, there are fads in the stove community and on this list. When trying to implement something on a large scale, all sorts of people pop up out of the administrative woodwork
who ask questions not only unanticipated by the stove developers, they are often directly hostile to funding stoves at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The reasons stove projects get an automatic thumbs-down from large development organisations are
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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They are too complicated<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:windowtext;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
They usually fail, often miserably<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:windowtext;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
They are not reputation builders<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:windowtext;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
The impact made will soon be over-run/swamped/driven into irrelevance by [insert technology] which will solve the entire problem.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">One hit wonders abound. <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Something worked for someone so it must be universally applicable, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I have an idea that would work if everyone was forced to use it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I have a unique perspective on how to solve problem [X], everyone listen to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">You get the idea? Bean counters don’t give a hoot about one hit wonders. They want systematic, progressive, large scale impact that lasts.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Now, it is fair to debate which impact, where and at what scale. So let me give you the low-down on interesting things happening out there:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The experiment with selling char from TLUDs in India is gaining notice. Let’s look for additional sites where it might work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The experiment making char powder from waste biomass and turning it into fuel that fits a particular stove is not gaining anything like the interest it should, even though it offers a huge upside for avoiding
the useless burning of biomass wastes and the creation of very clean-burning stoves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The South-South cooperation creating the contextual testing method(s) bringing realistic forecasts of future performance based on well controlled lab tests is gaining recognition as the Next Big Thing in testing.
The ISO Committee for cooking stoves will create a contextual testing protocol, if it is not gutted by its enemies punting one-size-fits-all testing (a-la-WBT). This approach to product selection is giving major funders confidence that a stove programme might
actually deliver worthwhile benefits at scale. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Wars against or in favour of particular fuels are losing ground because of the growing realisation that only a stove-fuel combination could possibly be rated ‘clean’. Ethanol is a fuel that is often shown
not to be very clean, and kerosene has been unfairly labelled ‘dirty’ in the face of masses of evidence that it is a really good, clean burning fuel.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The first conference in recent memory on the subject of a coal burning stove, in Warsaw, is a major plus for a reality check. The war on coal is a Western thing, basically. In poor, cold Asia, they may come
out of the closet more boldly and discuss what to do about addressing poverty, IAQ and open access to far better technologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">None of this prevents anyone working on any technology they please, but keeping an eye on what the market is interested in is not wrong. Pick your market: donors, carbon traders, manufacturers, vendors, financiers,
maybe even users. Right now it is very easy to make a very big improvement in people’s lives. The efficiency wave will be followed by the electricity wave. After that we should sit down and take stock of the Next Big Thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Happy hunting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Crispin and all,<br>
<br>
You had many goo comments in your discussion of Nikhel's email. But you also wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The stove community in Africa suffers from two main impediments: the over-reliance on the WBT as a way of developing and evaluating stoves, and the near fanatical devotion to making char, as if Africa needs char-making stoves to save itself.
As one brand of missionaries leaves Africa, another arrives to tell people when they do and do not sin.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
My comments are only about <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The stove community in Africa suffers from .... the near fanatical devotion to making char, as if Africa needs char-making stoves to save itself.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe you meant to say ... as if Africa needs char BURNING stoves to save itself. -------- That would be true. Charcoal burning stoves are disastorous to Africa, Hait, and many other places.<br>
<br>
But you wrote ..... charr-MAKING stoves ....... Which can only mean TLUD stoves. Well,there is certainly no "near fanatical devociton" to char-making stoves. There is near fanatical devotion to the STANDARD and traditional ways of making
char, that is, the ways that do not use the heat, but just waste the energy.<br>
<br>
But that is not the case of the TLUD stoves that are :char-MAKING". <br>
<br>
Please clarify your comments.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/5/2017 11:16 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Nikhil<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I have had a little time to check on some things. I agree with your perspectives:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>"Clean energy" is a deliberate betrayal of poor people. <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Agreed because 'clean energy' is based on the concept of 'clean fuel' which is a misnomer - only combustion systems with fuel can be judged to be clean.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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