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That should have read 1997 not 2007. </div>
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Please re-read and re-interpret. </div>
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The reason I know about it is I was in Kampala in 1997. </div>
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Apologies for confusion</div>
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<div><b>From: </b>Paul Anderson</div>
<div><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, May 28, 2017 03:35</div>
<div><b>To: </b>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Nolbert Muhumuza</div>
<div><b>Reply To: </b>Discussion of biomass cooking stoves</div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] "Stealth fires" and Wendelbo and TLUD history</div>
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<div id="_originalContent" style="">Crispin, please clarify.<br>
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1. We agree that Wendelbo started in 1988 in Norway and was successful <br>
in northern Uganda in the mid to late 1990s.<br>
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2. So, anything in Kampala by 2007 is AFTER Wendelbo. So you cannot <br>
call that 2007 activity "predecessor technology." Any TLUD-style <br>
stoves in Kampala in 2007 could have sprung from Wendelbo's earlier work.<br>
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3. Please provde some (any) documentation about the 2007 stoves that <br>
you mention.<br>
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4. In 2009 the PCIA Forum was in Kampala. I was there and showed TLUD <br>
stoves (Champion style). Karsten Bechtel of CREEC was there, and from <br>
that interaction (with some kind words from Christa Roth, I am sure), <br>
the proposal for World Bank's BEIA funding was prepared for the TLUD <br>
project by CREEC (the first and only such funding for a TLUD project), <br>
with me as technical advisor, that gave rise to the Mwoto TLUD stove. <br>
The BEIA project ended in August 2012, and Awamu started in Sept and so <br>
did Mwoto Factories (with Awamu continuing still).<br>
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5. But never in those 2009 and later years did anyone in Kampala or on <br>
a listserv comment about some TLUD stoves in Kampala in 2007. Some sort <br>
of supportive evidence is requested. Such stoves COULD have been there <br>
(with probable roots traced to Wendelbo). But we need some support for <br>
your statement.<br>
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Paul<br>
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Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD<br>
Email: psanders@ilstu.edu<br>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<br>
Website: www.drtlud.com<br>
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On 5/27/2017 1:04 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
> Dear Friends<br>
><br>
> This is very clear as to date:<br>
><br>
> "I began my serious work with stoves back in Norway in 1988 before my next employment started. I began utilizing the fire technology I learned during the war ."<br>
><br>
> Interestingly, there was already established by Nov <font color="#de0021">1997</font> in Kampala a food cooking stove which was a TLUD burning vertically stacked bound bundles of reeds in a cylindrical ombustion chamber. The commercial fuel supply chain
was developed as well, not just a prototype prototype.<br>
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> The stove was mostly being used as a restaurant (commercial) cooking system. The charge of fuel was packed into the metal cylinder standing vertically and top-lit. It had secondary air provided above the fuel.<br>
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> While I understand and appreciate the work Paal did, it is also fair to mention this predecessor technology and to search for those who developed it and the story of the non-woody fuel preparation. There is a great deal of biomass around Kampala in the form
of reeds and bullrushes which served as the fuel source.<br>
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> Given that this system has all the elements of a 'modern' TLUD cooking stove I think it deserves a mention in the stove wiki, with a note asking people to locate additional information and perhaps a working sample.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
> Crispin<br>
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