<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Actually the stove is shown twice on that webpage, but I agree it is not very prominently featured and you need to know what you are looking for.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also the info on the webpage is misleading when it comes to the pricing. I confirmed with Veronica Kitty from the ASA intitative that t<b class="">he 250 USD of the loan is for FIVE stoves</b>. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So each complete double-burner stove costs 50 USD and there is not much profit margin on it. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For cost efficiency ASA prefers to give out larger loans and use group coherence as a collateral, thus the loan size of 250 USD received by one person on behalf of a group of five people.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is the photo on the website showing the double burner in the phase of lighting one of the two fuel containers, so the potsupports from sturdy re-inforcement bars are not yet on. <div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="8AE5E0F3-DFC7-42CD-AD58-E5DC0F61A988" height="216" width="320" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:9B93822F-CC48-433D-9848-B22F30C34DF7" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">below is a photo of the double-burner stove after cooking, when it can also be used as a table...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="yes" id="5668A6AF-91C9-40F2-B438-AB560388CBA1" height="255" width="240" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:9FEF9402-8FB2-4349-BAC4-F2A2A74F9CEF" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope that clarifies some questions raised</div><div class="">best regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Christa</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 10.08.2017 um 08:11 schrieb Dr.Ch.ADAM <<a href="mailto:scda2@t-online.de" class="">scda2@t-online.de</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class=""><title class=""></title><div class=""><p style="margin: 0px;" class=""> </p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p style="margin: 0px;" class=""> </p><p style="margin: 0px;" class=""> </p>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Some followup: <br class=""><br class="">ASA Initiative's record on Kiva website is not so positive - <a href="https://www.kiva.org/about/where-kiva-works/partners/392" class="">https://www.kiva.org/about/where-kiva-works/partners/392</a>.<br class=""><br class="">Average cost to borrower is 33% per year, delinquency rate is 59.33%, loans at risk are 73.99%, default rate is 5.1%.<br class=""><br class="">With do-gooders like these, selling $250 stoves, there has to be a Gold Standard fakery. <br class=""><br class="">Nikhil<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">The headline is sheer hype, considering that the first picture shows traditional mud stove outside the dwelling. <br class=""><br class="">At $250 a stove, no surprise that the ASA has made only 99 stove loans so far. <br class=""><br class="">Not terribly positive. Sounds more like selling "green" in the "green loans". <br class=""><br class="">At least these stove makers didn't have to go through the route of boiling water in test centers with dubious protocols, equipment and metrics. It is good to read "ASA worked with the community to determine the shape, size and color of the stove as well. The original design came from Italy, but they received feedback that the legs that weren’t strong and stable enough and that the color, a bright orange, was offputting." <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Positive story from Ghana here. Any comments on this article?
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