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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One can not pretend to study and write about the current R&D in the cookstove sector and not be reading nor mentioning the Stove List.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dan Sweeney has worked with stoves for a long time, he knows the Stove List, I am sure he reads it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This handbook doesn’t represent the current state of the stove R&D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the other hand, if for whatever reason, one desires to <s>advertise</s> study specific R&D projects, he is perfectly free to do so. But then he should say so in the report introduction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The introduction should state: « this study encompasses all of North America, at the exception of Canada and Hispanic states. With a special focus on Oregon, Northern California and Colorado. »<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The report should be called « A practical guide to implementing recent advances made by some U.S. labs ».<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Then it would be accurate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It didn’t take me long to write a list of other R&D projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the latter are geographically too far away for the research team, well, everything is on internet. Plus Skype calls work well, they are free of cost. There is no excuse not to talk about the other projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree with you Paul, and I cannot understand why so much time, energy and funding are poured into preserving status quo and perpetuating mistakes. This is killing us, this is what we should dread.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Solutions :<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stop writing and putting money into that kind of report perpetuating bad science (the WBT)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Present a more comprehensive and truer picture of what is really happening in stove R&D around the world<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fund international multidisciplinary teams of researchers actively developing scientifically valid new testing protocols. This has to be done outside of the ISO TC 285. I don’t think the ISO TC 285 is the right place to foster quick and iterative research and development. I don’t know what happens at the TC 285 despite me asking to be part of it or to be updated about it. As far as I am concerned, it is a black box.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Openly and transparently discuss every issue on testing. It is not acceptable that no one deigned to address the many concerns about the WBT that have been voiced by so many studies these past 10 years. Address each and every one of them. Stop the opacity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fund innovating R&D projects from international multidisciplinary teams of researchers using valid testing protocols. Encourage creative partnerships with the private sector, and with researchers outside of the cookstove sphere (for example with the heating stove industry in Europe and America). We really need new blood in the cookstove sector.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>There are many solutions, many things to do, but first we must get rid of the same old, same old.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Xavier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>De :</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Paul Anderson [<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu</a>] <br><b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 24 août 2017 21:31<br><b>À :</b> Vahid Jahangiri; Xavier Brandao; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'<br><b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:ndesai@alum.mit.edu">ndesai@alum.mit.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:dsweeney@mit.edu">dsweeney@mit.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:npenumetcha@cleancookstoves.org">npenumetcha@cleancookstoves.org</a>; <a href="mailto:rchiang@cleancookstoves.org">rchiang@cleancookstoves.org</a>; <a href="mailto:lcordes@cleancookstoves.org">lcordes@cleancookstoves.org</a><br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [Stoves] New Handbook for Biomass Cookstove Research, Design, and Development<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Xavier wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>How can it [Handbook from MIT D-Lab] not even mention the state-of-the-art topics that were discussed at length on this [Stopves] List?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>Response:<br>We try to believe that this Stoves Listserv is actually looked-at, read, studied, or understood by the community of stove developers and stove project operators. I suspect that it is largely ignored. <br><br>Whether discussing stove types or projects or administration or fuels or WBT or whatever, the "status quo" and "what I learned (when I actually studied the topics)" are strongly entrenched. <br><br>Solution(s):<br>[Please fill in this blank space.]<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Paul<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>