<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Perhaps of interest:</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>From:</b> Jeff Gilliland <<a href="mailto:jeff.gilliland@drawdown.org">jeff.gilliland@drawdown.org</a>><br><b>Date:</b> May 15, 2017 at 7:44:05 PM EDT<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jock@jockgill.com">jock@jockgill.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: Biochar in Drawdown</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dear Mr. Gill,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thank you for contacting Project Drawdown. Apologies for the delay: we have been quite busy promoting <i>Drawdown</i> for the last month! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I sent your comments about the Biochar solution on to Project Drawdown's research team, and here is what they said: <br><br><b>"</b><b>Thank you for taking the time to write us. We chose to model biochar primarily as a sequestration technique, despite its potential for energy. Our model assumes that a maximum of 50% of crop residues that are currently burned are instead used as biochar feedstock.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>We also avoided including sequestration impacts from application to soils, as data on this is not sufficiently robust. However we did model a yield increase from soil application."</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I hope that helps explain our approach and position! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">As for glass batteries and better solar cells, we will certainly keep our eye on those as the technologies develop. We intend to update the book every year or two, so with any luck they will make it into the next version!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thanks, all the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>Jeff Gilliland<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Communications Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Project Drawdown<br><a href="mailto:jeff.gilliland@drawdown.org" target="_blank">jeff.gilliland@drawdown.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Visit us at <a href="http://drawdown.org/" target="_blank">drawdown.org</a></span></p></div></div></blockquote><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Jock Gill </span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">P.O. Box 3</span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Peacham </span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">VT 05862</span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Cell: 617-449-8111</span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regenerate the Commons </span></div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 28, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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I thank Trevor of the Biochar Listserv for introducing the topic.
It is a worthy topic for the Stoves list, also. Trevor wrote:<br>
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<span>>>>I've just seen Paul Hawkin present his pitch for
Project Drawdown...</span>
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<p><span>Long but compelling viewing.</span></p>
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<p><span>I'm keen to hear from our resident biochar
climate change gurus on biochar review methodology,
ranking and placement under 'food' when it could also
reside under energy, land use and materials.</span></p>
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<p>In his presentation, they declare v.conservative
approach to measurement. Should the biochar community of
experts be engaging more closely with this initiative?</p>
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<div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">Thanks for pointing out
these two videos. First one is 1 hr 17 minutes. And I
stayed with it to the end. Very informative. Second one is
also over an hour, but in the first 6 minutes I determined
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Thanks for pointing out these two videos. First one is 1 hr 17
minutes. And I stayed with it to the end. Very informative.
Second one is also over an hour, but in the first 6 minutes I
determined that it is a repeat of the same talk to a different
group. <br>
You should look at one of them, and I refer to the first one..<br>
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At minute 32:26 there is a list of the top 20 Drawdown ""ways"
(approaches??). Well worth studying (and is discussed in the
subsequent few slides and minutes. Numbers linke #1 (refrigeration
and AC ) is listed as 89 GT (gigatonnnes CO2e) by the year 2050,
which is 30 years away from 2020 (their starting point). Correct me
if I am wrong, but that is 89 GT TOTAL in those 30 years, not 89 GT
per year.<br>
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And the grand total is 1051 GT , See the summary table at:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.drawdown.org/solutions-summary-by-rank">http://www.drawdown.org/solutions-summary-by-rank</a><br>
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#10 is rooftop solar, at 24 GT.<br>
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#20 is nuclear (admitedly controversial) at 16 GT. <br>
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and #21 is Clean Cookstoves, at 15.8 GT <br>
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The top 20 account for about 75% of the total drawdown being
discussed. MANY other ways are in small numbers of GT. Of
special note is #72 Biochar, calculated as 0.8 GT by 2050.<br>
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This is all for discussion.<br>
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My calculations about TLUD stoves that earn carbon credits and
produce charcoal are:<br>
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1. Goal of 250 MILLION stoves by 2030, but just say it is to be by
2050. <br>
2. Each stove earns 4 carbon credits (each is 1 tonne CO2e) per
year. That would be 1000 Million tonnes. Which is 1 GT .....
PER YEAR!!<br>
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3. Do that for 30 years and that becomes 30 GT. WHAT IS
THIS? Just the TLUD stoves for poor people could be double
what is calculated by the Drawdown book.<br>
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So, Please correct me about any errors by me. Let each Listserv
do its own discussion.<br>
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Paul<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/27/2017 9:47 PM,
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<p><span>I've just seen Paul Hawkin present his pitch for
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<p><span>Long but compelling viewing.</span></p>
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<p><span>I'm keen to hear from our resident biochar climate
change gurus on biochar review methodology, ranking and
placement under 'food' when it could also reside under
energy, land use and materials.</span></p>
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