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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Dear Frank,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> all,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">"</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">The WBT was a successful program to compare stoves and allow the stoves with the best potential to be picked for further consideration in the real World.</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">"</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">No, it wasn't. The WBT was not successful, it was popular. Very popular. Successful and popular</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">are not the same.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Stakeholders</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> who used the WBT</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><U> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">thought</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> it allow</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">ed</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> them to</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">compare and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">pick the stoves with the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">best potential for the real world.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Since the metrics were invalid and the results absolutely unreliable, comparing them meant nothing.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">But sure, the WBT is incredibly simple</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">to use, and makes one think it can do something it cannot: no wonder it's been popular.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Now, I think</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">for those</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> who do not want to consider other protocols because the WBT is easy</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">and practical</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">to use, I can suggest another testing protocol.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">It is actually way eas</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">ier</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">in its</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> use than the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">WBT, so then it is way better.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">It is called the Dice Roll Test (DRT).</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Some say</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">that the WBT</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> legitimate because it</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">'s been used for</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">decades</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> Well the Dice Roll Test has been used by</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">various</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> human civilizations for thousands of years. You cannot beat</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">such</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> legitimacy</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">The DRT is simple, you roll the dice to determine the fuel savings and emissions (CO, PM, PM 2.5) of the stove. Then you record the results on a sheet of paper.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> That</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">’</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">s it.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">This allows comparability, an</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">d placing stoves into Tiers as well.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">That's what makes it so great, and you can generate a lot of data in no time.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Like the WBT, the more tests you do</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> with the DRT</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">, the more probabilities you have that one test will represent accurately the performance. I am sure mathematicians could argue</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">the approach</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">of the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">protocol</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">has</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">some</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> perfectly defendable merits.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">So, based</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">on the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">above</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">compelling arguments,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> I recommend that the DRT replace</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">s</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> the WBT</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> starting from now.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">More seriously</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">: testing protocols have to be more than just easy to use. They are testing protocols</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> to produce and disseminate millions of stoves</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">for christ sakes,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">it has to be</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">really</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">serio</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">us.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">It is ok if I need</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> to be in a fully equipped lab rather than</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> in my backyard</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">, and if I need few days rather than one afternoon to do my testing. This is an important matter, it is normal engineers and researchers ha</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">ve</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> to be mobilized for that. It is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">way</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">too im</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">portant.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">When did easy became more important than scientifically valid?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">"</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Lets correct these problems and get the WBT back to central to our many faceted program.</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">"</FONT></I></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Do you think these problems can be corrected Frank?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">What would be your approach, for each</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"> <FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">issue</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> described below</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> this email</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">, to correct them for sure</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri"> and once and for all</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">?</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">« Some of WBT critical issues remain unsolved. In particular, the main weakness of the WBT concerns its real-life relevance. As a matter of fact, the protocol prescribes to test the stove for a fixed combination of burn sequence (high-power and low-power) and pot dimensions. This limits the test relevance to just that particular setting: when any variation of these parameters e which deeply affect the system performance e is introduced, results may significantly differ. Criticism about WBT concerns also the repeatability of the protocol, with a number of researchers claiming that it would need to be reviewed in terms of accuracy. The WBT is a controlled laboratory test, thus supposed to be characterized by good repeatability and to be effective in comparing different stove designs. Nevertheless, the choice to bring the water to the boil preventing the use of the lid e that is made in order to better approximate a typical cooking task e is not functional to this purpose. As a matter of fact, uncertainties related to temperature reading and vaporisation in the boiling region lead to high variability between test replicates. In order to improve the reliability and replicability of the tests, the latest version of the protocol includes the section “Changes to Testing Conditions to Improve Repeatability”, which refers to different fuels and pot characteristics. However, eventual changes involving other parameters (pot insulation and maximum water temperature), which deeply affect test variability, are not mentioned. Such problems give evidence of an unsolved conflict between the declared purpose of the WBT (viz. to be a design-phase test, not intended to be representative of real-use performance), and a general tendency to use the results form WBT as a significant means to select the most appropriate cooking stove for a given context. A lot of debate has been made around formulation of metrics, primarily on thermal efficiency (Table C3), which is often interpreted as the most immediate and distinctive stove performance parameter. Studies from Bailis et al. highlighted how relying on WBT thermal efficiency outputs, regardless of the relative importance of high and low power cooking tasks among the target population, can lead to misleading interpretations. Furthermore, Zhang et al. and Jetter et al. questioned the scientific meaningfulness of thermal efficiency at simmering. Indeed, this phase is characterised by highly variable steam production, which represents a heat loss in the energy balance but positively contributes to the efficiency value in the actual formulation of thermal efficiency. Finally, some unsolved issues concerning statistical significance of data are worth mentioning. WBT 4.2.3 includes “Statistic Lessons for Performance Testing”. The appendix specifies that the minimum number of test replicates for each model of stove should be three, although it is reported that this number of replicates is not necessarily sufficient to determine a stove performance within a certain confidence interval. Nevertheless, Wang et al. noticed how a great majority of published studies are performed using a number of replicates that is equal or less than three, perhaps due to a misinterpretation of the Appendix message as “only three tests are needed”, regardless of variability and confidence interval. Wang et al. investigated this topic using a simplified version of the WBT 3.0 and demonstrated that more than 5 replicates are likely to be required to avoid impractically large 95% confidence intervals and that even more replicates may be required to demonstrate a statistically significant difference in performance between two or more stoves. »</FONT></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><I></I></SPAN></P>
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De : Stoves [<A HREF="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>] De la part de Frank Shields<BR>
Envoyé : mercredi 6 septembre 2017 17:03<BR>
À : Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<BR>
Objet : [Stoves] Back into action</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Stovers,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">The WBT was a successful program to compare stoves and allow the stoves with the best potential to be picked for further consideration in the real World. It was only flawed in the test method used. Lets correct these problems and get the WBT back to central to our many faceted program. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">1) It needs to relate to the fuel planned to be used. I suggest the energy in the Volatile Fraction to be the total energy released to the secondary. The Fixed energy to be the maximum char making capability of the fuel. Results of percent energy used (if that is at all important?) is based on the volatile energy fraction and the Percent char produced a percent of the maximum for that biomass. That will please all three groups; TLUD, Rocket and Ron : ).</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">2) We need to have it measured for the many different tasks that the stove might be used. I suggest developing a Task Cube. This a solid metal (platinum, aluminum, steel, titanium) of something that will last. Cubed to exact measurements, Drilled and taped to fit a thermistor to record the increase in temperature. Place this block in with different foods being cooked and record the temperature profile. Develop the profile that needs be obtained for each task. Sell the Task Cubes to labs where they can place them in boiling water or sit on a hot surface then follow the temperature profile to determine if the stove will work for that task and when the task is completed. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">So we go from the actual fuel (well sort of) to the actual task (well sort of). The program is (or was) already set up and used so should be quick to get it running again. Purpose it to provide Cecil Cook (and others) with a list of stoves from an unbiased source and with best chance for success into the field so they can do the things they do. And provide the opportunity for every stove designer to get their stove compared with others. </FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="fr"><FONT COLOR="#365F91" FACE="Calibri">Frank</FONT></SPAN></P>
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