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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Frank, Crispin,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>These are all great points. Instead of a generic rewards program, biochar from stoves should be connected to real problems like land restoration. The Biochar for Sustainable Soils (B4SS) project by UNDP Global Environment Fund has been testing this with improved stoves in several countries. <a href="http://biochar.international/">http://biochar.international/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also, from Patrick Worms, World Agroforestry Centre, today at COP 13 in Ordos, China:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www2.unccd.int/news-events/cop13-ordos-china-6-16-september-2017">http://www2.unccd.int/news-events/cop13-ordos-china-6-16-september-2017</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Friends,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>UNCCD COP: ’Scaling-Up Investment into Land Restoration: Getting the Biggest Bang for the Buck’ will be held Wednesday from 13:00 to 15:00, in room MET-20.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>If you’re at UNCCD COP13 in Ordos, come and join the European Commission, the World Agroforestry Centre, German International Cooperation, high-level government representatives at the week’s most exciting side event!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Land degradation is at the nexus of a vicious spiral linking low primary productivity and biodiversity loss with poverty, hunger, instability and insecurity. Yet the environmental, social and economic functions of even seriously degraded landscapes can be restored if all stakeholders, from farmers and pastoralists to policymakers and businesses, can find ways to work together.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Exploring how this can be done at scale and at low cost is the objective of a new five-year European Union-funded project involving eight African countries (Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Mali, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Somalia), which aims to uncover pathways for large-scale restoration across the world. This event will explore the key ingredients needed to achieve restoration at a truly massive scale, while also looking at successful initiatives from Africa and China.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Key speakers will include:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Bernard Crabbé, European Commission<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Mark Schauer, German International Cooperation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Dennis Garrity, World Agroforestry Centre<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Cai Mantang, Elion Resources<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>And high-level government representatives from selected partner countries.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Hope to see you there!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>Patrick Worms</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'> (MSc Cantab)</span></i></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#0D0D0D'>Senior Science Policy Advisor, World Agroforestry Centre</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#0D0D0D'>Steering Committee Member, Initiatives for Land, Lives and Peace</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#0D0D0D'>Trustee, ALAAP International</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#0D0D0D'>Trustee, AFS Magyarország Nemzetközi Csereprogram Alapítvány</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#0D0D0D'>Member, Ecosystem Restoration Camps Advisory Board</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#0D0D0D'>Member, GAP International Advisory Board</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.worldagroforestry.org/"><span style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=65 height=72 style='width:.6791in;height:.75in' id="Picture_x0020_14" src="cid:image001.png@01D32BB3.4824ADA0" alt="Description: Description: cid:image004.jpg@01CE9CE8.E4CD7960"></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#7F7F7F'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=FR style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0D0D0D'>33 rue du Progrès | 1410 Waterloo, Belgium |<br>E: <a href="mailto:x.yx@cgiar.org"><span style='color:#0563C1'>p.worms@cgiar.org</span></a> | T: +32 2 351 6829 | M: +32 495 24 46 11 | Skype: patrickworms |</span><span lang=FR style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=FR style='font-size:4.0pt;color:#7F7F7F'> </span><span lang=FR style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>See our Gender methods, indicators and deliverables (</span></i><span style='color:black'><a href="http://worldagroforestry.org/crp6/gender"><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt'>http://worldagroforestry.org/crp6/gender</span></i></a></span><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>)</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>Reveal the wonder of landscapes (<u><a href="http://landscapeportal.org/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://landscapeportal.org</span></a></u>)</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>Discover ICRAF’s entire set of 6200 publications (</span></i><span style='color:black'><a href="http://outputs.worldagroforestry.org/"><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt'>http://outputs.worldagroforestry.org/</span></i></a></span><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>)</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>Download our 220 Open Access Datasets (<u><a href="http://thedata.harvard.edu/dvn/dv/icraf"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://thedata.harvard.edu/dvn/dv/icraf</span></a></u>)</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Crispin Pemberton-Pigott<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] [biochar] Where to discuss STOVES AND CARBON offsets and drawdown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This is directly relevant to the stoves group when it comes to devising program policy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Who is doing the saving?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Who gets the money?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In what form – price subsidy?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Does the user give informed consent? (I think not!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Is the public generally aware there exists a CDM finance mechanism in the stove programme that will reward some group with millions of $ the public will not see? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Is it ethical to make money from the savings produced others because we are ‘clever’?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Compliance costs a fortune. Was this deliberate, to benefit the auditors? Have the review mechanisms been competently reviewed to see if they are fit for purpose? What I read says they use the WBT 4.x, 3,x and the CCT 2.0 and KPT 2.0, none of which would pass a competence review. How does this affect the value of the ‘work’? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What are the institutional and reputational risks associated with using un-reviewed and/or discredited methods of performance assessment to dish out money?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Crispin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>+++++++++<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>at the risk of being way off topic - I would think the only person getting CC is the person putting it into the ground where it stays. Not later used as fuel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-CA>Frank<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>