<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div>Paul:<br><br>Not all belly buttons are enticing. <br><br>Carbon drawdown and earning carbon credits are totally different concepts and approaches. In the voluntary carbon market, you may get some "fenced" market just for biomass cookstoves, but otherwise competing with other suppliers of emission reductions. I don't know of any CDR markets - outside of REDD+ perhaps, which I know very little about - but those markets are likely to be more competitive. <br><br>There is no basis for quantifying "health benefits" from particular source emission reductions. <br><br>Nikhil</div><div><br>On Sep 13, 2017, at 12:08 AM, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Philip,<br>
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There are two aspects:<br>
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1. Debate about whether there is climate change. My response
is: Opinions are like navels (belly buttons). Everybody has one.
(the originally mentioned body part is a different one (and not the
nose or mouth).) I have other things to do in my life than enter
into that debate.<br>
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2. Discuss possible actions that involve cookstoves that could
cause carbon drawdown (or earning carbon credits). This is not
about if it should be done, but is about how it can be done. And
even more important is to actually be doing actions. And to do
those actions, some funding would be very appropriate and useful to
get the stoves into use. And if funding comes from people who are
motivated by climate change, that money is just as good as money
from people motivated by health reasons.. Even better if both,
but one is sufficient. And I think that carbon (climate) issues
could be more motivating than are the health issues (at least to
some potential sources of grants, gifts, loans or sales of carbon
credits.)<br>
<br>
I am watching to see what messages come via the Stoves Listserv.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<div class="m_1434605509347665555moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/2017 10:47 AM,
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Is it that you feel debate is over, or that this the wrong place
for the debate? Philip<br>
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Sent from my Huawei Mobile
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Is this Off Topic?? Fwd: Re: [biochar]
Where to discuss STOVES AND CARBON offsets and drawdown<br>
From: Paul Anderson <u></u><br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <u></u>,Nikhil
Desai <u></u>,Tom Miles <u></u>,"
<a class="m_1434605509347665555moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>" <u></u><br>
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With apologies to all Stovers (including Crispin),<br>
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___ I ____ am stopping this topic on the Stoves
Listserv. No further reply.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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