<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nikhil: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>See below:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com" class="">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ron: <br class=""><br class="">You mentioned <br class=""><br class="">"The WG1 and other reports in the 285 process are listed at <a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/committee/<wbr class="">4857971.html</a> <<a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/<wbr class="">committee/4857971.html</a>><br class=""><br class=""> Their status is found at <a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971/x/catalogue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/committee/<wbr class="">4857971/x/catalogue/</a> <<a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971/x/catalogue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/<wbr class="">committee/4857971/x/catalogue/</a><wbr class="">>. "<br class=""><br class="">These two links provide no such information. <br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">RWL1: Sorry. They opened for me.</b><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">Would you be kind enough to share these reports in the TC 285 process and their status?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL2: You didn’t read my whole reply, I guess. I said: “</b><i class=""> I don?t believe either the WG1 or WG2 report is able to be shared - but hope someone higher up in this chain can give us more from either report. I can?t.”</i></div><div><i class=""><br class=""></i></div><div><b class="">Ron</b><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">Thank you. <br class=""><br class="">Nikhil<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class=""> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:33:06 -0600<br class=""> From: "Ronal W. Larson" <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><br class=""> To: Discussion of biomass <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.<wbr class="">org</a>><br class=""> Cc: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>><br class=""> Subject: Re: [Stoves] stoves and credits again<br class=""> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:AD844E1C-0C95-4C53-BE56-9E010E174E22@comcast.net" class="">AD844E1C-0C95-4C53-BE56-<wbr class="">9E010E174E22@comcast.net</a>><br class=""> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class=""> List, cc Crispin<br class=""><br class=""> Crispin responds here only to my fifth response in a 10-response message I sent less than a half hour earlier (at <span tabindex="0" class="gmail-aBn"><span class="gmail-aQJ">10:16 and 10:44</span></span> Larson time). My guess is that we will see no other. Pity, as this deserves a lot more attention.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">> On Sep 22, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">> <br class="">>> >>A thorough investigation of engineering sources finds no support for rating performance on the basis of any of the energy being subtracted from the denominator, the input energy.<br class="">> <br class="">> >[RWL5: What is the name and location of this ?thorough investigation???<br class="">> <br class="">> ISO TC-285 WG1 ?(Conceptual Review)<br class="">> <br class="">> As an ANSI nominated expert you should know that already. Your buddies participated in it.<br class=""><br class=""> [RWL1?: I guess I am slowing down - but it would?ve helped if Crispin had mentioned ISO, 285, or WG1.<br class=""><br class=""> I am trying in this sequence of emails to make up for the fact that I have not been a good contributor to this important and valuable international ISO stove exercise. I came in late - mainly because of this very topic.<br class=""><br class=""> The WG1 and other reports in the 285 process are listed at <a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/committee/<wbr class="">4857971.html</a> <<a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/<wbr class="">committee/4857971.html</a>><br class=""><br class=""> Their status is found at <a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971/x/catalogue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/committee/<wbr class="">4857971/x/catalogue/</a> <<a href="https://www.iso.org/committee/4857971/x/catalogue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.iso.org/<wbr class="">committee/4857971/x/catalogue/</a><wbr class="">>. The numbering there makes it clear that WG2 is further along than WG1. WG2 came to the exact opposite conclusion from WG1 on this topic of the validity of the equation e3=e1/(1-e2). I would be greatly surprised if Crispin didn?t know this - as I am quite sure he voted against the majority in (the almost complete?) WG2 report I don?t believe either the WG1 or WG2 report is able to be shared - but hope someone higher up in this chain can give us more from either report. I can?t.<br class=""><br class=""> <snip><br class=""> Ron<br class="">> <br class="">> ?Regards<br class="">> Crispin <font face="georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""></font><br class="">
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