<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Nikhil and list cc Crispin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I have no idea how RFPs are being handled, but it seems clear that the Philips stove (basically a TLUD) has been selected in (I think) more than one competition - and is highly ranked.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>It is hard to imagine that folks writing RFPs would not consider Tiers. Agreed? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I view the Tier system as a way of improving stove performance and believe that is happening.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I don’t believe there is any need to wait for TC 285 declarations.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com" class="">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Dear Ron:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Re: your "<b class=""> The answer to the first sentence is “Tiers”.</b> <b class=""></b><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class=""></b><br class="">Is there a Request for Proposals for cookstoves for Tier 4 efficiency, just waiting for TC 285 declaration and adoption by US or some other donor? Are there participants here who would like to write such a proposal? <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nikhil <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Ronal W. Larson <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="">Crispin and list</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="m_-8856118989186472020Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Before responding, I need to add a promised point on this topic about 1/3 the way down in a Crispin message in this thread from the 23rd. He said, and my too-delayed responses are: </div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><span class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="m_-8856118989186472020WordSection1"><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">So the argument came down to, why is the char energy to be treated differently from other energy paths? There was no clear answer why it should be. Char produced can be a metric: mass delivered. The energy in the char recovered can also be a metric: char energy. No one has any problem with that. They are standard measures.</div></div></div></blockquote><span class="m_-8856118989186472020Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><b class="">[RWL1: The answer to the first sentence is “Tiers”.</b> <b class="">Agreed on the last part - I don’t think anyone is questioning the quantities being measured. It is only one (e3=e1/(1-e2)) that gives reasonable answers and is used widely that is under dispute.. </b> </div><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""></span><font face="Calibri" class=""> </font><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>
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