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Nikhil. (I will try to get this message also to Kirk Smith, Dean
Still, and some GACC leaders.)<br>
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Yes, LOT's of assistance will be needed. Currently, the level of
assistance is some readers (not action) from the Stoves Listserve
plus some specific project assistance (Honduras, South Africa,
Uganda, India) that is fewer than 20 people in direct contact with
me. MORE assistance is welcomed at any time.<br>
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I, too, and reading Kirk Smith's latest publication. Please send
your review comments soon. He will be at the GACC Forum in 3 weeks
from now. Clarity about his position on ANY acceptable (or
seriously getting close and meriting assistance) stove for the the
use of wood and other dry biomass will be important. LPG cannot
service everyone (not even in India with big financial support).
For the remaining millions of households, will Smith and others be
supportive (or silent or against) about the ADVANCED modern clean
cooking solutions (namely the micro-gasifiers). We want clarity.<br>
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Even the GACC needs to be more clear. "Technology neutral" is not
acceptable when preference is given to LPG while overlooking the
micro-gasifiers but giving grants and support to regular
"stick-burning" stoves that cannot burn wood cleanly.<br>
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I am awaiting some comments about my previous (here attached).
It starts with:
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Paul<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Paul:<br>
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Will require LOTs of assistance. <br>
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By way of reference, the current year estimate of India's
expenditure on its various LPG programs is about $4 billion. <br>
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Some years ago, when these costs were carried entirely on the
books of the public sector oil marketing companies, they were
about $8-10 billion a year. While the customer base was smaller,
the prices paid to upstream oil companies - including public
sector ones - were high, in keeping with the world oil prices. <br>
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India's LPG cost burden on the government and public sector
companies is difficult to estimate, but I reckon in the 50-odd
years to date it's been about $100+ billion in total. <br>
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Prof. Kirk Smith is elated at such new investment in public
health by expanding LPG access to the lower-income customers,
even as direct public health expenditures on medical services
far lag behind the need for these groups. (I am preparing a
critical review of Prof. Smith's latest celebration of Prime
Minister Modi and will be happy to share it when done.) <br>
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The real task is to see whether a "truly health
protective" biomass stove can be marketed at scale
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</span> Working on it. The TYPE of stoves is the
micro-gasifiers. And the best of those (based on my
experiences) are the true TLUD stoves (with char
making) that have fans. Working on it. Will be
announcing before or at the GACC Forum in 3 weeks.<br>
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CURRENTLY and on-going, the TLUD-ND (natural draft)
gasifier stoves are having great acceptance in the
expanding efforts in West Bengal (will be reported at
GACC Forum). Financial solutions are shown in the
Deganga case study. <br>
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Yes, "can be marketed at scale in the next five
years." But that will require SOME sort of assistance
(currently negligible). <br>
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Working on it.<br>
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Paul<br>
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