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    Nikhil.     (I will try to get this message also to Kirk Smith, Dean
    Still, and some GACC leaders.)<br>
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    Yes, LOT's of assistance will be needed.   Currently, the level of
    assistance is some readers (not action) from the Stoves Listserve
    plus some specific project assistance (Honduras, South Africa,
    Uganda, India) that is fewer than 20 people in direct contact with
    me.   MORE assistance is welcomed at any time.<br>
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    I, too, and reading Kirk Smith's latest publication.   Please send
    your review comments soon.  He will be at the GACC Forum in 3 weeks
    from now.   Clarity about his position on ANY acceptable (or
    seriously getting close and meriting assistance) stove for the the
    use of wood and other dry biomass will be important.  LPG cannot
    service everyone (not even in India with big financial support).  
    For the remaining millions of households, will Smith and others be
    supportive (or silent or against) about the ADVANCED modern clean
    cooking solutions (namely the micro-gasifiers).   We want clarity.<br>
    <br>
    Even the GACC needs to be more clear.   "Technology neutral" is not
    acceptable when preference is given to LPG while overlooking the
    micro-gasifiers but giving grants and support to regular
    "stick-burning" stoves that cannot burn wood cleanly.<br>
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    I am awaiting some  comments about my previous (here attached).   
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        recognition that renewable solid fuels (mainly wood / pellet /
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    <br>
    Paul<br>
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        By way of reference, the current year estimate of India's
        expenditure on its various LPG programs is about $4 billion. <br>
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        Some years ago, when these costs were carried entirely on the
        books of the public sector oil marketing companies, they were
        about $8-10 billion a year. While the customer base was smaller,
        the prices paid to upstream oil companies - including public
        sector ones - were high, in keeping with the world oil prices. <br>
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        India's LPG cost burden on the government and public sector
        companies is difficult to estimate, but I reckon in the 50-odd
        years to date it's been about $100+ billion in total. <br>
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        Prof. Kirk Smith is elated at such new investment in public
        health by expanding LPG access to the lower-income customers,
        even as direct public health expenditures on medical services
        far lag behind the need for these groups. (I am preparing a
        critical review of Prof. Smith's latest celebration of Prime
        Minister Modi and will be happy to share it when done.) <br>
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            Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      The real task is to see whether a "truly health
                      protective" biomass stove can be marketed at scale
                      in the next five years. </span></blockquote>
                </span> Working on it.   The TYPE of stoves is the
                micro-gasifiers.  And the best of those (based on my
                experiences) are the true TLUD stoves  (with char
                making) that have fans.   Working on it.   Will be
                announcing before or at the GACC Forum in 3 weeks.<br>
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                CURRENTLY and on-going, the TLUD-ND (natural draft)
                gasifier stoves are having great acceptance in the
                expanding efforts in West Bengal (will be reported at
                GACC Forum).   Financial solutions are shown in the
                Deganga case study.   <br>
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                Yes, "can be marketed at scale in the next five
                years."   But that will require SOME sort of assistance
                (currently negligible).  <br>
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                Working on it.<br>
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                Paul<br>
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