<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Andrew and list:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>See inserts below</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 4, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andrew Heggie <<a href="mailto:aj.heggie@gmail.com" class="">aj.heggie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 4 October 2017 at 14:52, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> What happens to the char is<br class="">up for discussion, and I mean discussion at the local level of the people<br class="">who actually have the char from the TLUD stoves. The "talk" of biochar<br class="">means nothing if biochar is not of interest (or is not of benefit) to the<br class="">households who created the char.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I agree yet we still seem to be unable to ascertain a value for char,<br class="">to the stove owner, other than its fuel value, yet in the developed<br class="">world people are making biochar, not utilising the heat given off in<br class="">the process and yet apparently receiving voluntary carbon credits.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: You are correct. The value of biochar is (hopefully) coming down - as sellers are getting ridiculously high prices (like $1500/tonne - or in small quantities well over $2.00/kg - and often selling by cubic foot.) The word is also getting out id developing countries.</b></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">My personal hope was that TLUD devices would be accepted for their<br class="">low particulate emissions and would have liked to discuss this<br class="">further, especially in respect to how emissions change with moisture<br class="">content or when the char is consumed at end of burn or not.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: Andrew - don’t be in despair (replace “hope was … would..” with “hope is … will…”). We will continue to hear plenty on moisture and end-of-run consumption - and making money while one cooks. Does anyone know of any other stove type where cooking costs can be negative?</b></div><div><b class=""><br class=""></b></div><div><b class="">Ron</b></div><div><b class=""><br class=""></b><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Andrew<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Stoves mailing list<br class=""><br class="">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br class=""><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br class=""><br class="">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br class="">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br class=""><br class="">for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br class="">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>