<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#351c75">Maybe time has come for Uber stoves!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#351c75"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#351c75">Cheers.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#351c75"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#351c75">Anil</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Nimbkar Agricultural Research Institute (NARI)<br>Tambmal, Phaltan-Lonand Road<br>P.O.Box 44<br>Phaltan-415523, Maharashtra, India<br>Ph:+91-9168937964<br><a href="mailto:e-mail%3Anariphaltan@gmail.com" target="_blank">e-mail:nariphaltan@gmail.com</a><br> <a href="mailto:nariphaltan@nariphaltan.org" target="_blank">nariphaltan@nariphaltan.org</a><br><br><a href="http://www.nariphaltan.org" target="_blank">http://www.nariphaltan.org</a><br><br><a href="http://nariphaltan.org/about-2/awards/" target="_blank">http://nariphaltan.org/about-2/awards/</a> Awards for NARI staff<br><a href="http://nariphaltan.org/nari-in-press/" target="_blank">http://nariphaltan.org/nari-in-press/</a> NARI in press<br><br></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</span><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">Does anyone know of any other stove type where cooking costs can be negative?</b></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">It is common practice in Java to make money while cooking, at least for some foods. Homesteads with sugar palm trees must spend either four or eight hours a day tending a fire to boil the sap. Either
they do or they lose the product because it won't keep for 12 hours in the raw state. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">Thus while they are making money they use a stove that boils sap continuously. Investigating how food was prepared we found that they used nearly no fuel at all because they cook certain foods on
the exhaust from the palm sugar making. The traditional stove has two cooking stations, and the improved ones have three plus a chimney. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">The entire time they are cooking rice, simmering soup, heating water, they are making money. It would be more accurate of course to say that they are cooking food 'energy free' because if there is
no food being prepared, the residual heat is wasted. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">Cooking in this case is an added efficiency and separating it from the 'commercial' use of energy is impractical. By far, the most fuel consumed in the home is for making money. Something like 85%
of homes generate income with their stove. If this figure is in error someone can correct it. It is very high, is my point. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">In the Western world, very few homes are generating income with their domestic stoves. Elsewhere it is the norm. Cooking food is an ancillary task done free while the money is made. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">Deliberately making charcoal while cooking they would see in the same manner. Why waste the heat, right?</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Slate Pro'">Regards </span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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