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Todd,<br>
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Congratulations on sending your pallet to Puerto Rico!!<br>
<br>
The statement by Jim Jetter says it all:
<blockquote type="cite"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The
last RFA was sent out to all PCIA partners (before integration
with the Alliance).</span></blockquote>
That would have been before 2011. That is eons ago in the
development of the TLUD stoves. <br>
<br>
There is a difference between being "stove neutral" and being
"stove ignorant" or "stove uninformed".<br>
<br>
Your experiences with GACC regarding Mayanmar and Marshall Islands
are indeed disappointing. <br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/13/2017 8:58 PM, Todd Albi
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><b style="font-size:12.8px;font-style:italic">SilverFire </b><span
style="font-size:12.8px">shipped our first pallet of donated
Hunter TLUD Chimney stoves to Puerto Rico last week in
coordination with UCEED! After contacting numerous agencies
and organizations with no response or apparent interest, we
have forged ahead with our own Go Fund Me campaign. </span>
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<div><a
href="https://www.gofundme.com/ship-stoves-to-puerto-rico-ucedd"
target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.gofundme.com/ship-<wbr>stoves-to-puerto-rico-ucedd</a><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">We have given up on
organizations like GACC and others claiming that they
are involved in ICS stove implementation. Our most
recent International trip to Myanmar where GACC claimed
active participation <i>is not actually true</i>, <u>no
GACC representative attended any of the stove
demonstrations or training</u>. They appeared only at
the political ceremonies, with micro fiance
organizations in tow, attempting to influence policy and
opportunities for micro fiancce. </span>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">We ran into the same issue
sending humanitarian container to Marshall Islands
with GACC, although claiming to be active with ICS
stove implementation, it does not appear to be true in
regard with our organization. Any transportation
assistance from GACC our organization requested for
folks in need, much less assistance with stove
funding, has been rejected. The same issues seem to
be true with stove testing, while many organizations
have had stoves tested at no cost, other organizations
have been blocked from testing altogether. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Jim Jetter at EPA claimed
stove testing requirements are by RPA via GACC only
acceptable process for stove testing, despite numerous
direct requests. GACC claims otherwise. The stove
testing process by EPA, the use of flawed Aprovecho
WBT protocols, unreliable Aprovecho emissions
equipment, and GACC smoke, leaves our organization
with the impression much of the clean cook stove
sector is significantly flawed. Rahda again lied to
my face in Myanmar stating RFA's not required for
stove testing, despite numerous emails stating
otherwise from EPA. </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Todd,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It
was good talking with you in Cambodia.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For
the current round of testing, stoves were
selected through an application process
with selection criteria. For future
rounds of testing, we will use the same
process – an announcement with a request
for applications (RFA) will go out to all
Alliance partners, and stoves will be
selected based on the criteria and based
on available resources. I expect it will
be at least a year before the next RFA
will go out, but I’ll let you know if
things change.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Jim</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Todd,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The
last RFA was sent out to all PCIA partners
(before integration with the Alliance).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If
you’re signed up as an Alliance partner,
you will receive any and all future RFAs.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Jim</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> Todd Albi [mailto:<a
href="mailto:todd.r.albi@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">todd.r.albi@gmail.com</a>]<wbr> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2013
12:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jetter, James<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: SilverFire Stove
Testing</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12.8px"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12.8px">Jim:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">
<p class="MsoNormal">Appreciate the
update. Please add me to the contact
list or what ever the process was. I
never saw a RFA go out.</p>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12.8px">Todd Albi,
SilverFire</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Todd,</span></p>
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style="font-size:12.8px"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br
class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
Jim</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:calibri,sans-serif">Hi Todd,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Stoves
we are currently testing were chosen
based on selection criteria in a
Request For Applications that was
issued quite a long time ago through
PCIA. If we have resources in the
future, we will issue another RFA
that will go out to all Alliance
partners. We receive many requests
for testing, and I hope we will be
able to respond. Meanwhile, please
consider other Testing Centers (many
sponsored by the Alliance):</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a
href="http://www.cleancookstoves.org/our-work/standards-and-testing/connect-with-testing-laboratories/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cleancookstoves.org<wbr>/our-work/standards-and-testin<wbr>g/connect-with-testing-laborat<wbr>ories/</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span
class="gmail-m_6664234309195140684m_9100131004715576189gmail-m_6647275904546284052gmail-m_8791616370817183928gmail-m_-6631552354074216995gmail-m_6032193449354572838gmail-il">Jim</span><br>
______________________________<wbr>____________<br>
James J. <span
class="gmail-m_6664234309195140684m_9100131004715576189gmail-m_6647275904546284052gmail-m_8791616370817183928gmail-m_-6631552354074216995gmail-m_6032193449354572838gmail-il">Jetter</span>,
P.E.<br>
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(E305-03)<br>
National Risk Management Research
Laboratory<br>
Air Pollution Prevention and Control
Division<br>
Research Triangle Park, NC 27711,
USA<br>
phone: <a
href="tel:%28919%29%20541-4830"
value="+19195414830"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">(919)
541-4830</a> fax: <a
href="tel:%28919%29%20541-2157"
value="+19195412157"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">(919)
541-2157</a><br>
email: <a
href="mailto:jetter.jim@epa.gov"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
class="gmail-m_6664234309195140684m_9100131004715576189gmail-m_6647275904546284052gmail-m_8791616370817183928gmail-m_-6631552354074216995gmail-m_6032193449354572838gmail-il">jetter</span>.<span
class="gmail-m_6664234309195140684m_9100131004715576189gmail-m_6647275904546284052gmail-m_8791616370817183928gmail-m_-6631552354074216995gmail-m_6032193449354572838gmail-il">jim</span>@epa.gov</a></span><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><font
color="#000000">I also reached out
to Radha again in 2014. In
summary the GACC, EPA and other
politico's in the stove sector is
failing lots of folks in need.</font></span></p>
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<div><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><font
color="#000000"><br>
</font></span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The
last RFA was sent out to all PCIA
partners (before integration with the
Alliance).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If
you’re signed up as an Alliance
partner, you will receive any and all
future RFAs.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12.8px">From the
SilverFire perspective, the stove sector smells, and
appears to have numerous political motivations,
rather than implementing quality stoves for those in
need. We will look forward to documenting a Stove
Hall of Shame in the future. </p>
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