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Crispin, Cecil, and all,<br>
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Cecil wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">IMO this fight is likely to persist for a
century. That was the conclusion of Kuhn in his historical
assessment of the way science progresses. The big paradigm does
not shift until the authorities literally die off and the younger
generation pulls off a revolutionary paradigm shift (see Thomas
Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. It takes time to
kill off mistaken orthodoxies once they take root.</blockquote>
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Is the differnce between the ICS stoves (solid biomass burning as
solid biomass) and the gasifier stoves (solid biomass converting to
gases before being burned) a paradigm shift? If so, I hope the ICS
folks will change and not just die off. But being part of the
"younger generation" does not give this old man (me) any comfort or
extra years.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/23/2017 2:16 PM, Crispin
Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Dear Friends<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I am posting a comment from Cecil (with
permission) from a discussion about changing the dominant
testing paradigm.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks Cecil<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Crispin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">+++++++++<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">…I was trying to capture and
constructively redirect the increasingly bitter and irrational
conflict between the different stove testing "parties", clans,
or maybe just factions on the stove science equivalent of a
Michelson-Morley experiment that would practically resolve the
matter of which metrics and design & development
procedures result in the "best" stove for a well characterized
target community of stove users. Therefore the "trumped up"
shoot out at the OK CORRAL between the certifiers and the
contextualers which are two schools of stove science.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">+<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">IMO this fight is likely to persist for
a century. That was the conclusion of Kuhn in his historical
assessment of the way science progresses. The big paradigm
does not shift until the authorities literally die off and the
younger generation pulls off a revolutionary paradigm shift
(see Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. It
takes time to kill off mistaken orthodoxies once they take
root.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I have seen how "progressive"
orthodoxies can quickly form in the USA and dominate the
discourse for a generation or more. Nikhil and I are old
enough to have surfed our way through more than a couple of
enthusiastic waves of mistaken sciences. My judgement is that
the direction of most sciences is controlled by
artisan-scientists who invent new instruments that enable the
observation and precise measurement of nature, including human
nature, at increasingly more micro and macro scales of
observation and interaction. This was something I learned from
the horse's mouth in lectures at LSE by Karl Popper. Forgot
what book talks about the role of lens makers in the
development of astronomy and micro biology; maybe Conjectures
and Refutations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I was trying to divert stovers from the
politics of astronomy AKA theories of stove testing stage
& science and focus the different schools of stove making
on what I see as the main mission of stove science and
testing. My personal aim is to get stovers to focus on the
different steps in the process by which more appropriate
domestic stoves are in developed, tested, fabricated, &
disseminated to particular communities of use. We are so stuck
in testing stage that we are not experimenting systematically
with how to optimize each step in the stove development
process and then ultimately how to get the best possible
combination of steps and critical factors.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To me we are looking for a mythical best
or most perfect stove for a given community. That is not how
reality works. You know about the best being the enemy of the
good (enough). If we remember we are a diverse team of stove
makers who are going through an exciting learning process
together, and stop worrying about identifying generic stoves
intended for industrialized mass production in China I am sure
we will make much with more progress toward understanding the
differences between contextually appropriate vs inappropriate
domestic stoves.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Perhaps if you can accept my objectives
- which is not the establishment of well contextualized
national and regional teams competent to design & develop
a series of culturally and environmentally appropriate
domestic stoves - then maybe you will understand my strategy
to refocus the discussion away from the self aggrandizing
politics of special interest groups of INSIDERS and OUTSIDERS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Otherwise we allow ourselves to be "the
playthings of the ignorant".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">That's what comes to mind Xavier and
what did Einstein say about solutions to problems in science
and life? Something about the solutions residing outside the
paradigm or world view i have which the problem(s) are
characterized.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">A LUTA CONTINUA!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Cecil the Cook<o:p></o:p></p>
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