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<p><font size="+1">Dear Stovers and welcome new people,</font></p>
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<p><font size="+1">oH Great! Now we have three approaches:</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">1) Hard science. Exactly what fuel
characteristics are right for each stove and task oriented. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">2) Softer science(?). Study of ethnography and
conjectural science</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">3) Pray to God all will work out. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">I'll stick with the first approach. But if
another ten years goes by with no well designed Stove Certification
program then I might switch to the third approach. : )<br>
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<p><font size="+1">Regards</font></p>
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<p><font size="+1">Frank<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/26/17 8:13 PM, lh cheng wrote:<br>
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<div>Thank you my brother Abraham, concerning loving oneself,
Jesus said: deny yourself and follow me. Cross and baptism in
Christianity means death before resurrection. Concerning
loving others, through our good work we bring others to God's
mercy and love, not bringing others to ourselves' mercy only.
The western liberals who put their hope in technology and
social engineering( just like Communism or Marxism), try to
put the needy and poor under their own mercy, but they
themselves need mercy terribly, they have no true ability to
love others, neither their god ( technology and social
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<div>bear with me for this kind of talking again.</div>
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<div>God bless you all my friends</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-25 20:14 GMT+08:00 abraham
abyslo <span dir="ltr"><<a
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks
for this,Lh. This is entirely true. All knowledge and
skill is to love God and then oneself and others. Be
blessed. I ask you take time to evangelise in your place
and the whole world.
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On Saturday, November 25, 2017, lh cheng <<a
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> Dear friends and stovers,<br>
> I'm Cheng from China, Dr Anderson kindly bring me
here to interact with each other. I look forward to
learnig much from you and having strong friendship
with you guys. please bear with me for my shabby
English.<br>
> I am a little surprised that you are talking
about certain projects in Hebei of China. From my
point of view, technology is human works, is useful
somehow, but God's work is far more greater, only when
human works bring people to God's work, then that
human work is good. if we deny God and his work,
technology is nothing, it serves lies and can promise
nothing. There are so many lies in China, that's why
Chinese people live a terrible life, no matter how
much effort they focus on technology or fancy
projects.<br>
> If we give credit to certain inventor or
scientist for some stove or gasifier or any other
devices, we should accredit more to God who create
universe and give breath to human being and every
living creature. and He prepared more for human, that
is gospel of Chist Jesus. far greater than good news
of a smart stove design. There were and will be plenty
of testmonies of God and Jesus.<br>
> Please bear with for lengthy talking about God, I
love you all.<br>
> Hi,<br>
> and God bless you all<br>
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