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    Dear Cheng,<br>
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    I am delighted to see your TLUD efforts using tin cans
    (canisters).   I do not associate tin cans with China, but I guess
    they are increasingly abundant as China makes major progress with
    development.  I write more in my next message that will follow soon.<br>
    <br>
    Paul<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/30/2017 12:55 AM, lh cheng wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I post here some pictures of addons I've made .
        Everything is made from canister. 
        <div>Ignition helper is just a chimney, very helpful for
          ignition, after lighting the fuel, put it on the concentrator
          disk or just hover over the flame, the smoke soon disappears
          and flame become strong, no blowing needed.</div>
        <div>Chamber skirt is a skirt for secondary combustion chamber,
          function as insulation, leading to higher temperature, also
          provide hot air for third combustion. </div>
        <div>Pot skirt need no explanation.</div>
        <div>and there is a <span
            style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-size:13px;white-space:nowrap">turbulence
            enhancer, very small, I forgot to take picture of it. made
            from canister of red bull soft drink. </span></div>
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        <div><span
            style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-size:13px;white-space:nowrap">best
            regards</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-29 10:36 GMT+08:00 lh cheng <span
            dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lhkind@gmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lhkind@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">thank you George for sharing with us your
              past valuable experiences.
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              <div>Back to stoves, it turns out that "limiting primary
                air from above" is not a good idea, when gas is
                restricted from above, the burning process continues
                downwards, still pretty fast, leaving the upper part of
                the fuel burned more incompletely.  Making the inner
                cylinder and air base more air-tight is a better
                approach.</div>
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              <div>I've made some little addons for my TLUD stove, for
                better ignition, turbulance, insulation and third
                combustion.  maybe I will post some pictures later.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-28 23:35 GMT+08:00
                    Andrew Heggie <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        href="mailto:aj.heggie@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aj.heggie@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On
                        28 November 2017 at 12:32, George Riegg <<a
                          href="mailto:icecool@qanet.gm" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">icecool@qanet.gm</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        > Dear All,<br>
                        ><br>
                        ><br>
                        ><br>
                        > I have become an expert in putting my foot
                        into all sorts of poo by being<br>
                        > frank – no pun intended Frank!<br>
                        ><br>
                        ><br>
                        <br>
                      </span>Me too and I agree entirely.<br>
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                      Now lest we put Cheng off posting let's talk about
                      stoves.<br>
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                      We dearly need input and experience from his part
                      of the world  to add<br>
                      to our corpus of knowledge.<br>
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                          Andrew<br>
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