<div dir="ltr">Teddy: <br><br>Of the references cited by Dan, I think two could be useful - Kinyanjui and Minae, 1982; Openshaw, 1982.<br><br>I will try to track down Keith and Meta Systems folks involved in Thailand work. Or wait till Robert recovers; may take months. He is critical but stable. <br><br>Nikhil</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="georgia, serif">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Nikhil Desai</font></div><div><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif"><br><i>Skype: nikhildesai888</i><br></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Cookswell Jikos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cookswelljikos@gmail.com" target="_blank">cookswelljikos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Dr. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm away from the office till later in the week but a short summary of the history of the KCJ can be found here <a href="http://kenyacharcoal.blogspot.co.ke/2009/09/kinyanjui-jikos-wholesale-shop.html?m=1" target="_blank">http://kenyacharcoal.<wbr>blogspot.co.ke/2009/09/<wbr>kinyanjui-jikos-wholesale-<wbr>shop.html?m=1</a> courtesy of Dr. Daniel Kammen from STEP. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unfortunate to hear of Roberts malaria, please wish him the best and if he'd like when he's out I'd be very happy to organise with our European KCJ distribution agent (<a href="http://www.cookswell.eu" target="_blank">www.cookswell.eu</a>) could bring him a nice hot pot of jiko cooked pea soup. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Teddy</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 Dec 2017 6:22 pm, "Paul Anderson" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I hope that Teddy Kinyanjui of Cookwell stoves in Kenya can respond
about the inspiraton for the KCJ (mentioned below). Teddy's father
was the originator/developer in Kenya many years ago.<br>
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Could be ESMAP funding, for followup on earlier USAID work .<br>
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<div>One 1993 <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.362.7044&rep=rep1&type=pdf" target="_blank">paper</a> that van der Plas was a
co-author to only mentions "In Thailand, improved stoves
development started in the private sector; this is true of
other countries in Asia as well." It refers to several
ESMAP-funded stove projects in Thailand. (Annes 2: Projects
Surveyed for Study.)<br>
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This seems to be the most widely cited paper on the subject of
what makes biomass stoves usable and used, but it is nearly 25
years ago. So much for the due diligence of the stove program
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<div>I had no idea that it was the inspiration for Kenyan
Ceramic Jiko (KCJ), as reported <a href="https://www.princeton.edu/%7Emauzeral/wws402f_s03/JP.Shena.Elrington.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>: " The original design for
the KCJ
was inspired by an improved stove used throughout Thailand.
This stove, the ‘Thai bucket,’ has
an insulating liner composed of ceramic that was cemented from
the top to the bottom of the... "</div>
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<div>Reducing Indoor Air Pollution in Africa: A Review of Two
Successful Intervention
Programs and Recommendations for Future Intervention Efforts
Shena M. Elrington
May 2, 2003. Looks like a student paper for WWS 402f:
Sustainable Development- Can We Do It?
Prof. Denise L. Mauzerall.<br>
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<div>I made an interesting discovery -- according to <a href="https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/7385282/improved-biomass-cooking-stove-for-household-use-pdf-101-mb-" target="_blank">this</a> 1982 paper submitted to the
National Energy Administration, the Thai bucket stove is
thought to have originated in China and could have been
brought to Thailand a thousand years earlier (p. 33-34).<br>
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The report also says (p. 44) that Meta Systems Inc. Thai Group
reviewed efficiency of various Thai bucket stoves in 1982. I
was at Meta Systems in 1980-1 and learned my biomass balance
work and cookstoves projects there. I probably know some folks
who worked on that project. <br>
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I think the recommendations of this report 35 years ago (on p.
241-2) are still relevant. <br>
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Reinventing the wheel keeps subsequent generations employed in
the good cause. <br>
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The Thai Bucket Stove was designed by Robert van der Plas
in 1982. Does anyone know who funded that development? Did
he do it as part of a project, or on his own?<br>
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