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<p><font size="+1">Very funny Paul. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">I don't think knowing the thermal power is at all
important. Ask the s/he using the stove what thermal power they
want. What?! and I have always wondered if changing the
thickness of the pot is best to control the heat. Thick walled
pot and more seconds to heat the task. But certainly no number
is needed nor possible. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">Regards</font></p>
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<p><font size="+1">Frank <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/11/17 9:23 PM, Paul Anderson
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Frank,<br>
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Your USE of the 6-box system is the clearest explanation that I
have read. Your comments put it into practical perspective.<br>
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Philip Lloyd's comment about wanting to know the thermal power is
correct. And you can overcome that with a watch that shows
seconds. Record the time-to-boil. Record it in Box 5 or 6,
right? <br>
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And it certainly could be useful for Michael's needs. Or for
teaching science under a tree in rural Africa.<br>
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**** joke: Michael teaches at the college. but if he was
studying there, this could become known as student's
tea-test (Ouch!) ***<br>
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Paul<br>
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Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/11/2017 10:13 PM, Frank Shields
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<p><font size="+1">Hi Michael, Stovers;<br>
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<p><font size="+1">This is a good example where the 6-Box system
would be useful. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">Set up the system so it makes good tea. The
process is to control the variables and modify one at a time
to improve the process. There are lots of steps you can do
but would take some time, test methods and a little
equipment. All simple but not good at this time. Once you
have a good fuel, good technique, and can produce a good cup
of tea I suggest the following:</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Box-1) Observe the fuel for size, moisture,
cleanliness etc. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">Box - 2: Record the process loading the
combustion chamber.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Box- 3: Record the combustion chamber; stove
model etc.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Box-4: Establish info regarding the utensils
used; metal, size, heavy-light etc.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Box-5: Record the process; stirring, amount
of water, amount of tea, sugar added etc.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">Box-6: Determine a good repeatable Completion
Point. Perhaps water just starts to boil or i can hold my
hand on the side of the pot for just one second.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">You need to know what an improvement would
look like for you. Quicker tea but not care of amount of
fuel. Save on fuel, walk away with less manipulation, air
quality, amount of char left, quality of char produced, etc.
Whats important is what the end user decides important. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">Now all steps are controlled and should be
repeatable. You can change one Box at a time and see if that
improves the process. Use dryer wood or stir more
frequently. Use a lighter pot or less water. Add wood more
frequent in smaller quantities - try to get the best
conditions. <br>
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<p><font size="+1">Because no-one else is doing the same system
you will not be able to compare to other systems. But you
might be able to improve your own. And there are lots of
measurements for the fuel that can be made (not described
here) but use simple test methods and no need for a real
lab. Perhaps just some basic equipment. <br>
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<font size="+1">Frank</font>
<p><font size="+1">Gabilan Laboratory<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/11/17 6:24 PM, Michael N
Trevor wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Lets look
at this another way.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"> NO lab,
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">NO
equipment</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">How do I
test? <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I
thinking how well it cooks my tea is a good tool<br>
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