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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Xavier,</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am surprised to read that you don’t know whether you disagree with the sensors, computer graphs, and filters along with the water boiling portion of the test. I did not specify Aprovecho’s equipment in my question. I tested the same stove on both Aprovecho’s and Lawrence Berkley National Lab’s equipment, and the tests both showed a very clean stove. Does the disagreement include Lawrence Berkley National Lab’s sensors, computer graphs, and filters along with the boiling water portion of the test? What exactly do those who disagree with the WBT, disagree with, just the water boiling portion of the test or the overall test? Is the Controlled Cooking portion of the test also included in this disagreement?</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kirk H.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:xav.brandao@gmail.com">Xavier Brandao</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, December 18, 2017 3:29 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] Going back to 3-Stone Fire [Was Re: Chinaandcookstoves]</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Kirk,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>“Do you disagree with the sensors, computer graphs, and filters along with the boiling water?“<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t really know about that. I believe Crispin said the measurements from Aprovecho equipment was unreliable.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'>Other than that, the PEMS was breaking down all the time at Prakti, and I believe there are other cases where it happened.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><br>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'>Xavier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>De la part de</b> Kirk H.<br><b>Envoyé :</b> samedi 16 décembre 2017 00:55<br><b>À :</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [Stoves] Going back to 3-Stone Fire [Was Re: China andcookstoves]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have a question.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>When I test a stove I see sensors, computer graphs and filters along with the pot of water. Do you disagree with the sensors, computer graphs, and filters along with the boiling water? The water boiling portion of the overall test appears to attract your attention. How much of the overall test do you disagree with? What do you mean when you disagree with the WBT, are you including the sensors, computer graphs and filters?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kirk H.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:13.5pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4833in;height:.3in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" alt="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:12.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Garanti sans virus. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avast.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>