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Crispin and all,<br>
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You wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Most of the popular improved stoves were
developed on the public nickel, not by individuals with the
possible exception of the Sarai Cooker which has several hundred
producers. I think that was done privately.</blockquote>
Please include most of the variety of TLUD stoves as being privately
developed. (reference is the "Origins and History...." document at
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a> ) Wendebo and Reed did efforts that were side
issues of their employment. My work as a retired professor only had
some funds for 2 years in 2010-2012 from the BEIA project in
Uganda. P. Mukundan's company Servals did the production design
work for the stainless steel Champion TLUD at its own expense. The
more-then-40,000 Champion TLUDs in West Bengal have had zero public
funding, and we thank atmosfair (German private carbon credit
entity) for its investment. I am not sure how much public funding
Prof. Nurhuda received (probably not much, if any), but his stoves
now sold via Prime are not supported by public money. Maybe there
are other cases, but not known to me.<br>
<br>
What stoves are you considering as having been developed with
considerable (total or %) public funds? Let their stories be told,
if relevant.<br>
KCJ<br>
Rocket<br>
Envirofit<br>
??<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/17/2017 1:06 AM, Crispin
Pemberton-Pigott wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear
Nikhil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">>>…</span></b><span
style="color:#1F497D">we will continue to discover more
because lab assessments are cheap and replicable and
urgently needed. "<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>This is one example of promising R&D you could
propose in the C4D discussion; I will start there too.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good idea. It is the right audience.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>…But why hasn't this been done in the
past? I think it is because of this obsession with fuel
efficiency and extraneous goals in the standard-setting
exercise. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t think so. The WBT was largely
used by enthusiasts trying to invent the better mousetrap
that would have the world beating a path to their door.
After 30 years, that still hasn’t happened. Most of the
popular improved stoves were developed on the public nickel,
not by individuals with the possible exception of the Sarai
Cooker which has several hundred producers. I think that was
done privately.<o:p></o:p></p>
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