<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Na wewe pia Mzee Teddy,<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Lakini, hizi video .... needs to show some of the lower part of the improved stove as it would help the viewer a lot to appreciate the whole product. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Una fikiriaje ?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Asanta sana,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Richard Stanley</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.legacyfound.org" class="">www.legacyfound.org</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 24, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Cookswell Jikos <<a href="mailto:cookswelljikos@gmail.com" class="">cookswelljikos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Merry Christmas to you too Paul! <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perhaps drop a note to Mr. Taps from Wonder Stoves in Sierra Leone - he has invented this (among many others) excellent institutional stove seen here <a href="https://www.facebook.com/wonderstoves.sl/videos/889607707869718/" class="">https://www.facebook.com/wonderstoves.sl/videos/889607707869718/</a> that vastly improves conditions in this very hectic and hot looking kitchen.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All the best, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Teddy </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" class="">Teddy Kinyanjui</font></div><div class=""><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" class="">Sustainability Director</font></div><div class=""><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3YUMG1TTODQ/Wh6o8gWfRmI/AAAAAAAAAyw/1bp5qqpvmwQwg5JXqL7hz-OLGSx5nSEXgCK8BGAs/s512/TK%2BEmail%2BLogo.jpg" width="200" height="100" class=""><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif" class=""> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos" target="_blank" class=""><img src="https://images2.imgbox.com/97/28/BgG0H6ZN_o.png" class=""></a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cookswelljikos" target="_blank" class=""><img src="https://images2.imgbox.com/54/7e/owicmXIG_o.png" class=""></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/cookswelljikos?lang=en" target="_blank" class=""><img src="https://images2.imgbox.com/64/b1/oh4tfzkH_o.png" class=""></a><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b></div><div class=""><div style="font-size:small" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Stovers, especially Fred, Damon, Adam, Dale, Sam and Dean, and Jim Jetter.<br class="">
<br class="">
First, Merry Christmas to all of you, everywhere!!<br class="">
<br class="">
Now my stove topic: What is known about using a skirt or double skirt with institutional size stoves. The heat source is not the issue (Rocket, TLUD, LPG, other). The issue is heat transfer and reduction of fuel used, and not about emissions.<br class="">
<br class="">
Dale has done work on skirts on regular-size pots, with (I believe) results showing some but not so much impact as we would like.<br class="">
<br class="">
The InStove folks (Fred, Damon and Adam) are (I believe) the front runners on putting skirts onto large pots. And they do it with a DOUBLE skirt (heat up one side of the skirt next to the pot, then downward on the other side of that skirt, withing an outer barrier (cylinder) that even has some insulation.<br class="">
<br class="">
Certainly Rocket and probably other institutional stoves with "imbedded pots" or "sunken pots" are made and used. I believe that they have been measured by Aprovecho and EPA and testing centers, but maybe not with comparative data without the skirts / brick surrounds.<br class="">
<br class="">
So, the questions are: are there results (we hope for numeric, carefully collected data) that compares with some "baseline" or "un-skirted" pot, about<br class="">
<br class="">
1. the impact of a single skirt.<br class="">
<br class="">
2. Impact of the double skirt<br class="">
<br class="">
3. with and without insulation.<br class="">
<br class="">
I hope some data already exist and can be shared.<br class="">
<br class="">
Objective: is the extra expense of the skiirt (whatever configuration, even the brick enclosure structure) suficiently offset by the improved heat capture?<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks in advance!! And Season's Greetings to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br class="">
<br class="">
Paul<br class="">
<br class="">
-- <br class="">
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD<br class="">
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><br class="">
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<br class="">
Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">www.drtlud.com</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
Stoves mailing list<br class="">
<br class="">
to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br class="">
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.or<wbr class="">g</a><br class="">
<br class="">
to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br class="">
<a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.bioenergylists.or<wbr class="">g/mailman/listinfo/stoves_list<wbr class="">s.bioenergylists.org</a><br class="">
<br class="">
for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br class="">
<a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://stoves.bioenergylists.o<wbr class="">rg/</a><br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote></div><br class=""></div>
_______________________________________________<br class="">Stoves mailing list<br class=""><br class="">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br class=""><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br class=""><br class="">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br class="">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br class=""><br class="">for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br class="">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>