<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If anyone is interested in contributing to this model, I would welcome you emailing me to start a detailed conversation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dave Lello</div><div class="">Ekasi Energy</div><div class=""><a href="mailto:dave@ekasi.energy" class="">dave@ekasi.energy</a></div><div class="">Mobile: 082 891 8335</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 15 Feb 2018, at 16:24, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Christa and all,<br class=""><br class="">You raise an excellent question. I changed the Subject line so the we see this discussion for what it actually is: Offgrid pelletizing for fuel. (There are off-grid pelletizing operations for animal-feed pellets; related but some significant differences.)<br class=""><br class="">I will try to bring forward some info to answer your question about who is working on this issue, but it is not my decision to release the info or not.<br class=""><br class="">There are also some very related questions:<br class=""><br class="">1. Pellet production output (size) of the units. You gave an example of 1 ton output per hour. Thai is not as small as it sounds (even though the big industial sites are soooooo much larger). Assuming (this can be discussed) a household would consume 2 kg per day of pellet fuel, one ton would serve 500 households. In a 10 hour production day, that would be supplying pellets to 5000 households (maybe 30,000 people) and need 10 tons of appropriately processed / reasonably dry biomass per day. (If 1.5 or 2.5 or 3 kg pellet consumption per household, that would greatly change the numbers).<br class="">Variables include the operational hours per day, and if working 5 or 6 (or 7) days. 24 working days/month would mean serving 4000 households and needing 240 tons of appropriate feedstock per month. I would suggest that maybe half or one quarter that hourly output might be more appropriate.<br class=""><br class="">2. Alternatives for generating the needed power if grid was not present. We<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">are talking at least 80 kW electrical power requirement or a corresponding PTO + diesel tractor.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">3. And certainly more aspects.<br class=""><br class="">Let's see if there are some discussions and some factual inputs about this topic on this Listserv.<br class=""><br class="">Paul<br class=""><br class="">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD<br class="">Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" class="">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><br class="">Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072<br class="">Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" class="">www.drtlud.com</a><br class=""><br class="">On 2/15/2018 5:08 AM, CHRISTA ROTH wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Neil,<br class="">the answer very much depends on the access to electricity in the area of potential production: if you want to achieve a considerable / commercially viable output of pellets e.g. 1 ton/hour, you are talking at least 80 kW electrical power requirement or a corresponding PTO + diesel tractor.<br class=""><br class="">Does anybody have any off-grid pelletising success stories anywhere on this planet? Would be interested to know.<br class=""><br class="">Christa<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Am 14.02.2018 um 22:25 schrieb <a href="mailto:neiltm@uwclub.net" class="">neiltm@uwclub.net</a>:<br class=""><br class="">On 13 Feb 2018 at 9:15, Paul Anderson wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The people have<br class="">access to locally sources woody biomass fuel, but are interested in<br class="">having some better stoves with processed fuels.<br class=""></blockquote>Could they not make their own pellets and circumvent the problem as you<br class="">pose it altogether?<br class=""><br class="">Neil Taylor<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Stoves mailing list<br class=""><br class="">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br class=""><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br class=""><br class="">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br class="">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br class=""><br class="">for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br class="">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Stoves mailing list<br class=""><br class="">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br class=""><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br class=""><br class="">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br class="">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org<br class=""><br class="">for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br class="">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>