<div dir="ltr">I guess Todd's <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'YouTube Noto',Roboto,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:14px">SilverFire stove is one of the most advanced stoves in the world. but look at its performance in this video: </span><font color="#333333" face="YouTube Noto, Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:14px"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRHIPyb1TA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wRHIPyb1TA</a> , it smokes pretty much under a unskilled user. that will be a disaster for sure if inside a house by a housewife. we must face the accident and solve it. we must imagine the worst case and avoid it before hand. </span></font><div><font color="#333333" face="YouTube Noto, Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#333333" face="YouTube Noto, Roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:14px">Even the most advanced tlud biomass stove is not suitable for everyday-indoor-cooking, for the time being. </span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-01 6:40 GMT+08:00 lh cheng <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lhkind@gmail.com" target="_blank">lhkind@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Why do we take the media or certain organization so seriously? there are so many schemes there, manipulation there. today there exalt the topic of climate change, tomorrow they say user health is more important ( it is true, dead clock can be right sometime ). if we follow their schemes, we are trapped, in lies. and because some of us want something from media or organization? why? if the product or idea or design is good, we can get reward from market, with our own hands, with truth.<div><br></div><div>There are problems hidden in the biomass-stoves, Dr Anderson have a good hunch that, pellet is a good direction for solving many problems. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">2018-03-01 4:38 GMT+08:00 Andrew Heggie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aj.heggie@gmail.com" target="_blank">aj.heggie@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>Please find post from Paul below and the attached image which is a page of text. I had to reduce it considerably so quality is poor but legible<br><br></div>Andrew<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">From: Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>To: Stoves and biofuels network <<a href="mailto:Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">Stoves@lists.bioenergylists.o<wbr>rg</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 19:43:14 -0600<br>Subject: Fwd: [climate and stove] Not all fossil fuels are the same<br>
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Stovers (especially of the biomass variety)<br>
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The item below from Kirk Smith (who is one of the co-authors) tell
us about the forces favoring LPG. See the last sentence of the
abstract. They say that health of people is more important than
health of global environment. But there is at least one choice
(TLUD stoves) that can offer both. <br>
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It is unfortunate that there is not a major industry advocating for
biomass stoves as there is for LPG, with Smith as an academic
spokeperson. Certainly the GACC is not pro-biomass ---- it says it
is technology and fuels neutral. <br>
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More to say, but not right now. Let's hear some other comments<br>
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Paul<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To counter the resistance in some quarters
to substituting LPG and other clean fossil fuels for biomass
cooking fuels used by the world’s poor. Full article can be
downloaded from my website below/k.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Environmental Research Letters</i>,
2018, 13: 030201</p><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div>
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