<div dir="auto">Except for the monsoon season, India is a very dusty place and it is the dust in the air that gets measured as suspended particulate matter. Smoke from the kitchen or from car exhaust is not always its cause. Yours Karve</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 04-May-2018 19:49, "Nikhil Desai" <<a href="mailto:ndesai@alum.mit.edu">ndesai@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Paul: <br><br>There is more to WHO claims. Another story from yesterday, where WHO DG says, <br><br>
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">“Air pollution threatens us all, but the poorest and most marginalised people bear the brunt of the burden. It is unacceptable that over 3 billion people — most of them women and children — are still breathing deadly smoke every day from using polluting stoves and fuels in their homes,” said Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director General of WHO.</span> "<br><br>
<h1 style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 25px;line-height:1.1;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:GothamBlack;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">14 cities with worst air pollution are in India: WHO , 02 May 2018 </font><font size="2" style="font-weight:normal"><a href="https://www.domain-b.com/environment/20180502_air_pollution.html" target="_blank">https://www.domain-b.com/<wbr>environment/20180502_air_<wbr>pollution.html</a></font></h1><div>I agree with him. But urge WHO to keep its nose out of where it does not belong. <br><br>Holy cows need to be branded and taken to the slaughterhouse. <br><br>Nikhil </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_1427370255489925728gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="georgia, serif">------------------------</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="georgia, serif">Nikhil Desai</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif"><br><i>Skype: nikhildesai888</i></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Nikhil Desai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ndesai@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank">ndesai@alum.mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Paul: <br><br>This is hyperbole, deceit, nonsense. <br><br>Instead of "attribution", they claim "contribute", implying non-existent causal pathway. <br><br>Just remember and recite with Kirk Smith - attribution is not causality and attributability is not avoidability. In short, ANCANA. <div><br></div><div>You say, "Basically, nobody is safe." <br><br>Of course, nobody is safe from death. Which cause, whether known and identified as such is one question. (Never sure about this; read WHO reports on causes of death and data on death.) <br><br>NOBODY NEEDS TO PLEASE WHO. WHO IS WHO? These are public health charlatans promoting hysteria and careers. </div><div><br></div><div>Now, if you really need to know when air pollution kills, here is today's story. (In childhood, we had a tale about a blind king in a city of blinds or blindness. He ordered the whole city to be paved with stone and leather so there would be no dust.) <br><br>Keep in mind - there is no basis for PM2.5 hourly average emission rate targets in the ISO exercise. Leave aside fuel or stove type or whatever. <br><br>N</div><div><br><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-43987209" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-<wbr>asia-india-43987209</a><br><br>
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<br><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/av/embed/p0665g2z/43987209" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.com/news/av/emb<wbr>ed/p0665g2z/43987209</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_1427370255489925728m_-6954213936357860605gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="georgia, serif">------------------------</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="georgia, serif">Nikhil Desai</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif"><br><i>Skype: nikhildesai888</i></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_1427370255489925728h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<h2><a href="https://nature.us17.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2c6057c528fdc6f73fa196d9d&id=fed70f971c&e=562108ab5a" target="_blank">Air pollution kills 7 million people a year</a></h2>
<p style="line-height:1.5">About <a href="https://nature.us17.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2c6057c528fdc6f73fa196d9d&id=e7570b0287&e=562108ab5a" target="_blank">90%
of the world’s population is exposed to dangerously high
levels of air pollution</a>, says the World Health
Organization. Toxic air leads to the early death of an estimated
7 million people every year, including an estimated 3.8 million
deaths from indoor cooking with polluting fuels. More than 90%
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40% of the world population cook with solid fuels. So 60% do
not. Of that 60%, 50% (50% of 60% is 83%) ALSO are exposed by
dangerously high levels of air pollution. <br>
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Basically, nobody is safe.<br>
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So why push for LPG for the poorest 40% when even that is not going
to do much good for them???? Or is that mainly a promotion effort
by LPG business? <br>
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So it seems like there is no chance of pleasing the WHO. 7 million
deaths per year from air pollution. <br>
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