<div dir="ltr">NIkhil<div><br></div><div>In celebration of your delightful acerbic alliterations, I would like to invite you to a braaivleis# (a South African barbecue).</div><div>At his event, you will be given the place downwind of the fire to inhale the smoke generated by the wood as it ignites, as as it flares up as fat from the lamb chops and boerewors (coriander spiced local "farmer's sausage"). You will occupy this privileged position, moving around to stay with your head in the cloud of smoke as the wind shifts for the duration of the event. You will not be permitted to wipe the tears from your eyes nor wipe the snot from your nose as it dribbles down your chin. As a special concession, you will be permitted to pontificate on the non-biological action of smoke on the human physiology.</div><div><br></div><div>Indeed this experiment will not be submitted for publication in the International Journal of Irreproducible and Irrelevant Results, despite the potential grants, promotions and prestige that it would bring me.</div><div><br></div><div>I rest my case.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div>Harold the Physicist</div><div><br></div><div># braaivleis ==> a semi-religious ceremony whereby humanoid species, only with dingle-dangle attached, take perfectly good animal protein and convert it to char, thereby rendering a sacrifice to the Great God Climate Change and his acolytes resident in Bonn. Humanoids lacking said appendage are banned from participation in this ceremony, and are confined to the kitchen (unhealthful!!! space), to convert biomass into decorations for the char sacrifice.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Harold Annegarn<br>Associate Professor, School of Geo and Spatial Sciences, <br>North-West University, Potchefstroom<br>Associate Professor, China Agricultural University, Beijing<br>Mobile +27 (0)83 628 4210 Office +27 </div><div><a href="mailto:hannegarn@outlook.com" target="_blank">hannegarn@gmail.com</a></div><div><a href="mailto:hannegarn@outlook.com" target="_blank">hannegarn@outlook.com</a> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 May 2018 at 06:54, Nikhil Desai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com" target="_blank">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Crispin:<br><br>You ask, "
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Now, how do we turn this current state of knowledge into a calculation of the length, in years, of the extension of some people’s lives, particular people, about whom we know next to nothing?"<br><br>Why would you want to do that? <br><br>Burden of disease of the cohorts dead will not be replicated in future cohorts. <br><br>No claim may be entertained about "the extension of some people's lives."<br><br>At most, you may advance some hypothesis for a baseline incidence profile for some diseases - ALRIs - over short periods, and measure some correlation between changes in pollution dosage and disease incidence.<br><br>Whether what you inspect shows what you expect depends on your capacity to look; what you say about it depends on your glibness.<br><br>It's time to shoot this hobby horse of "health protective" cookstoves. Health is not divisible. <span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></span><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div></font></span><div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Nikhil<br><br><br></span></font></span><span class="gmail-"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:34 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks Norbert that was a great find.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I was not referring to the certification of stoves in the comment below, I was referring to the declaration that particles are equally toxic for regulatory purposes, then the host of regulations
and guidelines which followed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>To quote Nikhil:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“There are many sources of emissions of particulates of various sizes, often co-emitted and co-emitted with gases of different kinds. All these emissions have different pathways and residence times. We don't know squat about composition
and rates of emissions of household fuels, leave alone their determinants, pathways, ingestion. We don't know their toxicity by duration of exposure for different cohorts. Nor the disease incidence profiles.”<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Now, how do we turn this current state of knowledge into a calculation of the length, in years, of the extension of some people’s lives, particular people, about whom we know next to nothing?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Crispin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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