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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Paul and All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have a few comments on the content, mostly for clarification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext">Re:</span></b><br>
<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fproject%2FDevelopment-of-Culturally-Appropriate-Stove-Testing-Methods&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5969836a85d44460ce7608d5cafe95bc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636638117133194506&sdata=szGgIihrZ1%2FrxJvbf%2By0Vue3IWmBOIx2CY3bLcdldfE%3D&reserved=0">https://www.researchgate.net/project/Development-of-Culturally-Appropriate-Stove-Testing-Methods</a><br>
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<span style="color:windowtext">></span>2. It is about stove testing METHODS. Key is the water heating test (WHT) as an alternative to the water boiling test (WBT).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The WHT was written up by Christina from YDD and me a few years ago with specifics on how it was applied in the WB Pilot in Central Java. I am sure that document was provided to this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">></span>Bring the pot of water to 80 deg C and then put on another pot to continue heating, repeat as long as the test time.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">This method is applied in the Indian IS13152 1992, as I recall. That test also requires the use of a specified pot size selected from 27 standard pots, selected on the basis of the firepower of the stove.
The intention is to introduce some contextuality related to anticipated use. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">></span>3. The changing of the pot of water means no intentional changing of the power of the stove during the test. That is, there is no "simmering" stage (which is a major contention in the WBT).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">That is not a complete description. The firepower can be varies to reflect various patterns of use. Usually we operate the stove at three different power levels (minimum) and using two different common pot
sizes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">></span>And no "fiddling" with the turn-down abilities.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Well, if you wish. The method can be applied to any burn sequence you like.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">></span>A stove can be run at high power, and again SEPARATELY at middle or low power. But not mixing the power levels.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">You can do either. It depends on what you are investigation. If you are rating the performance for regulatory purposes, it is very likely there will be a test sequence that is relevant to the cooking culture.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">></span>I am not so sure that the word "heterogeneous" is the right term, but that could just be my personal opinion.<span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The word is used to reflect that use of multiple conditions in order to produce performance curves, rather than a single performance number. The HTP is based on a concept of providing the sort of information
you get when selecting a water pump. There are pump curves, not a single number. There are several SeTAR Centre publications containing performance curves for different pot sizes. The efficiency, combustion efficiency and PM vary on a curve and do not have
a single value. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:windowtext">></span>…the publication does not make an issue about culturally appropriate testing of cooking methods.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">It is implicit in the method: swapping pots is a very inexpensive way to get real time efficiency testing during any proxy cooking sequence you like.
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<span style="color:windowtext">></span>5. "Solid-Fuel" is a key term, and in this publication does NOT refer to wood or dry biomass. The fuels discussed are charcoal and coal. That is fine, but they are a limited subset of the varieties of solid fuels.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The method is not restricted to certain fuels. We have even used it for electric stoves.</span><br>
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6. <span style="color:windowtext">…</span>the common South African <span style="color:windowtext">
[Imbaula]</span> (bucket burning of coal) that was IGNITED IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. The traditional way is to ignite at the bottom (call it bottom lit or BL) and the other is at the top (top lit or TL). See the report for the differences. My one comment
is that the use of the "TLUD" name (normally associated with wood micro-gasification) is a bit of a stretch when presenting a single-walled, metal, "largish" bucket with many side holes and filled with coal.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The TLUD combustion approach has been promoted by the South African government since at least 1975. In those days it was called ‘the Scotch method’ which dates back to at least 1895. The Mbaula can be (and
is) constructed to optimise the combustion using primary and secondary air holes in various patterns. The hole patterns strongly affect the combustion quality.
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<span style="color:windowtext">></span>Maybe Crispin or Taffy can tell us about any further plans (or options) for stove testing with the WHT.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The CSI test method as currently employed in, for example, Indonesia, China and Mongolia, is the WHT in terms of the cooking performance assessment. However we no longer use pot-swapping. We have installed
a heat exchanger in the pot so we can cool it continuously. Water is circulated in a copper pipe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Considering the input and output temperatures, the mass of water inside the pipe, the water mass in the pot, and the pot mass and material, the total heat gained by the pot can be calculated on a continuous
basis. This is automated in the HPT Spreadsheet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Similarly, the water heating ability of a low pressure boiler (hydronic heater) is assessed using the same approach. Water is circulated through the heat exchanger, the volume is known, the metal mass of the
heater portion of the stove is known, and the expansion of water within the heat exchanger is compensated for temperature changes. This, together with the flow rate and two temperatures (in and out) yields the heat gained by the heat exchanger.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The cooking and water heating function can be conducted simultaneously. Using the Chinese Hebei test sequence, there is an ignition period, a high power heating period, a long low power heating period, a high
power cooking period, and then a high power heating period. The total test is 6H45. This has been shown to replicate the comparative performance of 24 hr tests duplicating actual behaviour of farmers in Hebei province. Thus it is a WHT, it is contextual to
Hebei, it is culturally appropriate, and it provides a comparative performance rating. This method was used to select stoves to be supported in the Hebei Clean Air Programme (800,000 homes). Many stoves already on the market were tested. Some of them were
found to be very clean burning relative to a ten-year-old stove which served as the baseline.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Crispin <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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