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    Stovers,<br>
    <br>
    This stove (according to website info) has a fan (and a solar panel
    and a battery).   The volcanic rock is likely to be pumice (very
    porous).  <br>
    <br>
    The users still put in charcoal or wood (or coal, as Crispin will
    test),   They do not get energy from the volcanic rock, but the rock
    could be holding valuable heat for more efficient transmission to
    the pot.<br>
    <br>
    Very interesting.    Could such rock be put to use in TLUD
    stoves?     Who has access to such a stove and can give us firsthand
    info?<br>
    <br>
    Paul<br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/13/2018 11:00 AM, Crispin
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            like the idea of being able to burn powder on a substrate. I
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            lang="EN-US"> Nikhil Desai <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com"><pienergy2008@gmail.com></a>
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            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 13, 2018 10:54 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com"><crispinpigott@outlook.com></a>; Andrew Heggie
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            <b>Cc:</b> Cookswell Jikos <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cookswelljikos@gmail.com"><cookswelljikos@gmail.com></a>;
            Paul Anderson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><psanders@ilstu.edu></a>; Cecil Cook
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cec1863@gmail.com"><cec1863@gmail.com></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Uganda Turns to Local Volcanic
            Rocks As Substitute for Charcoal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">What it says is that thermal storage
            improves the efficiency of cooking chicken.<br>
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            "<span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Like
              regular charcoal, these rocks are stacked in the stove and
              charcoal dust is spread liberally atop them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Twigs
              of pine or any highly flammable species are then inserted
              in the middle of the rocks and lit with a match."</span><br>
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            The dust and twigs are the primary combustibles. The way
            they are set, with the size and location of the rocks and
            the chicken, is all it takes to cook.<br>
            <br>
            So much for your theology of heating water and computation
            of efficiency. <br>
            <br>
            A stove is to cook something in the time required and at
            times desired. Nothing else. Get off your "performance
            standards". To hell with scientists.<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:23 AM,
                Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a
                  href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com"
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                        style="color:#1F497D">It sounds like they are
                        confusing the word 'heat' with 'burn. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        style="color:#1F497D">It is a solar thermal
                        storage ‎cooker from the sound of it. Has anyone
                        seen one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        style="color:#1F497D">Crispin <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Hello
                              everyone, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                            <span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Would
                              anyone know more about exactly what type
                              of rocks these area? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">''Ms
                                Twine said the rocks only work in the
                                solar-powered Eco Stove, which comes
                                with an internal air supply system that
                                helps heat up the rocks.</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.01)">
                            <i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
                                stove is also fitted with an on-off
                                switch that enables the rocks to burn
                                when turned on, and cool and return to
                                their natural state when turned off. The
                                stove comes with a radio, phone charger
                                and has two lights.</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.01)">
                            <i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Unlike
                                charcoal which burns down to ash, these
                                rocks can be used multiple times without
                                losing their power or texture.</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0cm;vertical-align:baseline;outline:0px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.01)">
                            <i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Domestic
                                stoves retail at Ush200,000 ($53)
                                together with the rocks while a "bag" of
                                the rocks alone sells for Ush35,000 ($9)
                                for domestic use and can last up to six
                                months.</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Ms
                                Twine says since the stove does not emit
                                smoke, those using it are protected from
                                indoor pollution.</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <i><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">"They
                                [rocks] do not produce smoke, burn for a
                                long time and you do not need charcoal
                                anymore," she adds</span></i><span
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