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Interesting discussions, and I am not taking sides about testing
methods (but I do clearly endorse char-making stoves, but not
necessarily the ways that they are measured / evaluaterd.)<br>
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But I will disagree with Andrew's recent comment:
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However coal burning space heating appliances are not a topic for
this list any more than discussing hydronic or hot air central
heating systems.</blockquote>
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My disagreement is not about coal vs biomass on this Listserv, but
is about the enargy needs (cooking and room heating) of <u>impoverished
</u>people being the true purpose of this listserv. Crispin';s
work with coal in those difficult circumstances is of great interest
to me (and to others, I am sure.) <br>
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We even have interest in issues about LPG stoves as long as the
discussion is about developing socieities (and not about LPG for
backyard grilling, etc.)<br>
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Paul<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/29/2018 4:38 AM, Andrew Heggie
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Ronal>Measuring char-making
capabilities of a cook stove that excels in
emissions and other ways is probably a real
problem if one is into coal-consuming heating
stoves.</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are you trying to impugn the work
of thousands of diligent workers bringing better lives
and living conditions to the hundreds of millions of
people suffering from coal and smoke in Asia? Even for
you, that is a scurrilous
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<div>Crispin that it a non sequitur from Ronal's (correct)
point and itself disingenuous ad hominem attack.<br>
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<div>It's a simple fact that char making and coal burning
stoves are opposites. <br>
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<div>I applaud your placing a design into the public domain
and there is little doubt coal will be used to make heat and
power for a while yet, all the time some of my electricity
is provided by coal burning I'm not going to deny anyone the
right to keep warm when no alternative means are available.</div>
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<div>However coal burning space heating appliances are not a
topic for this list any more than discussing hydronic or hot
air central heating systems.<br>
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groundwork necessary to make useful contributions to
the science of performance testing and rating, your
level of influence will not rise above its current
undetectable level.
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<div>That is a woolly and unnecessary statement as Ronal does
more groundwork looking into the science of burning and
pollution than most on here, myself included. <br>
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<div>I would hope so but am well used to your desire to have
the last word.</div>
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