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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Ray,</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for responding to my contribution. It looks to me like you approach the problem from another point of view, to make the secondary flame capable of burning any excess gas that is produced during this transition. The aluminum plate is a clever idea, pre-heating charcoal and wood to extend the cooking time. I think your stove is worthy of its own discussion based on its own merits.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kirk H.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:ray.menke@gmail.com">Ray Menke</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 13, 2018 1:11 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass cooking stoves</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Stoves] TLUD-ND transition from hydrocarbon flame to charcoalflame</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Kirk,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't have a problem with smoky transitions, but would like to offer another solution. In my 9" TLUD with a 24" high fuel container I use an Aluminum plate that can be loaded with pieces of charcoal or wood. The pieces nearest the flame ignite and can be shoved into the container where they insure ignition of the smoke that rises up through the char bed. The plate gets extremely hot and also ignites the raw wood pieces (see photo) and these can be pushed into the fuel container to extend the cooking time. This stove usually burns at high power for about 90 minutes and if additional simmering time is needed, the charcoal or wood on the plate does the trick. In the photo, the white material under the bricks is cast into a steel oil drain pan, and consists of Plaster, Perlite, and crushed glass. This is an insulator, and is heavy enough to hold a steel lid on top of the body of the stove as well as provide mass so the cook has a sturdy cooking surface. The grate is a cast iron frying pan perforated with many small drilled holes. This grate will tolerate the use of a small fan (if required) to provide additional air if one chooses to burn some of the charcoal, but I usually dump the charcoal into a tub of water</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=437 height=328 style='width:4.55in;height:3.4166in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D434BA.9093BE30" alt="9 inch TLUD_AL_Plate.JPG"></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>as soon as the flames die down.</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 2:05 PM Kirk H. <<a href="mailto:gkharris316@comcast.net">gkharris316@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If there are any TLUD-ND people out there who are having problems with smoky and smelly transition from wood flame to charcoal flame, attached is a solution that works for me.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kirk H.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Stoves mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/" target="_blank">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</a></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br>-- </p><p class=MsoNormal>Ray Menke</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>