<div dir="auto"><div>Steven </div><div dir="auto">Thanks for feedback, unfortunately this system seems to have some kind of local government backing.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We are trying to find the right local government resource to discuss with but it would really help if someone could feedback either a test or a good reference document source that could be used to clearly explain the risks.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In addition to this machine the streets are lined with smoldering piles of yard waste (and plastic) on a daily basis. So an education program is being put together.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks</div><div dir="auto">TonyV</div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 04:04 Law, Steven (MECP) <<a href="mailto:Steven.Law@ontario.ca">Steven.Law@ontario.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Shut this device down immediately using any means necessary, it is a toxic chemical horror show and it will be very expensive and difficult to measure the complex organics coming
out in the smoke emissions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I would be less concerned if it was 1000C like a proper incinerator but at 200C there is no proper combustion it is just degradation into CO, PAH, D/F, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Do not allow anyone to put the wash water or ash / “biochar” on the soil, as it will become toxic and any food grown on this soil will be full of toxic chemicals.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> October 10, 2018 9:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Stoves] Trash Burner<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Stover's, looking for some measurement / testing advice.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A quite horrifying machine has arrived at local trash collection site here in Indonesia.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Large trash burning oven, burning at 200C with some kind of water screen washing the exhaust.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This wash water is sold directly to our local farmers as a 'biological pesticide' after a couple of burns. The black bits at the bottom as 'biochar'.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know it is not technically a 'stove'.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am seeking advice on how and what to measure in the chimney/smoke so we can help local community understand what is coming out. We have access to some good labs but noone has been able to advise on sampling or collection methods and what
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've sent some of the liquid out to the lab.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The stuff going into the oven is basically everything picked up, probably 60% organic and paper and 25-30% plastic of all varieties, some glass.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
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