<div dir="ltr">Dear Chris, <div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing that, </div><div><br></div><div>Would you have any more information or photos of the areas around Addis Kidami that they are growing acacia trees? Any costs on it all? </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif">Teddy Kinyanjui</font></div><div><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif">Sustainability Director</font></div><div><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3YUMG1TTODQ/Wh6o8gWfRmI/AAAAAAAAAyw/1bp5qqpvmwQwg5JXqL7hz-OLGSx5nSEXgCK8BGAs/s512/TK%2BEmail%2BLogo.jpg" width="200" height="100"><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif"><br></font><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial narrow, sans-serif"> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CookswellJikos" target="_blank"><img src="https://images2.imgbox.com/97/28/BgG0H6ZN_o.png"></a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/cookswelljikos" target="_blank"><img src="https://images2.imgbox.com/54/7e/owicmXIG_o.png"></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/cookswelljikos?lang=en" target="_blank"><img src="https://images2.imgbox.com/64/b1/oh4tfzkH_o.png"></a><br></font></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 7:46 PM Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Chris<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for the report from the field. Just as in Rwanda and Haiti, the concept of farming fuel is catching on. South Africa does it a lot as well. There are forces at play motivating against legalizing it, because
where there is an illegal charcoal market, there is organized crime. The organized theft of community resources by outsiders is a major cause of deforestation (blamed on the local community of course).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I appreciate your comment about the use of retorts. Perhaps the solution is to use small connected retorts as in Malaysia where gas from one is used to externally heat a new batch in another. Each batch is not large,
and the process is approximately continuous. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I think it is also worth checking out the influence of wood ash (minerals) as a contributor to agricultural productivity, not only the char. Slash and burn agriculture relies on the ash for productivity because the soils
are thoroughly leached and robbed of nutrients. As Cecil points out, the “fertilizer” in a rain forest is all above ground.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Crispin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">[From Chris Adam]<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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an hour an than not be able to send it.....)</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><strong><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject: Wood fuel plantation for sustainable charcoal production
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Dear All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">i was told or i did read that in Rwanda it’s one of the unique countries in Africa where wood fuel plantations are popular with the farmers population and charcoal production is kind of regenerative
(peri-urban fuel-wood plantation, perennial cash crop and fuel).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">However recently I visited the area of
<strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Bahir Dar</span></strong> (Lake Tana) in Ethiopia and I was very much surprised seeing many wood fuel plantation from about 50km on along the road to Addis Abeba. Piles of timber everywehre! Actually the
charcoal production in this area has a status of being legal due to the wood plantations. Mainly a eucalyptus kind is used up to the town of Marawi and Dubate. The wood is transported by donkeys chariots to central place to sort out the wood into 3 categories:
wood for construction, wood for fuelwood, wood for carbonization.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
</span><span lang="EN-US">The eucalyptus tree plantation are used for several harvesting cycles as new shoots are growing from the stems cut.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
</span><span lang="EN-US">We might launch an EU financed project to introduce retort kilns. We might have one obstacle: now the workers are used to operate large earth mound kilns (28 steps to walk around), but retort kilns (adam-retort) only have a 3m³ relatively
small wood chamber.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">After the town of <strong>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Addis Kidami</span></strong> mainly an acacias tree is planted. There is a different harvesting method, after about 5 years of growing, the trees including the root stunk are harvested and are decentralised carbonized
at the place. The plantation is later transferred into an agricultural teff grain filed. Interestingly the farmers already discovered that at the places where charcoal was made, a “bio char” effect is visible and they start to distribute some of the charcoal
dust over their fields.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Betreff: Re: [Stoves] The Economist<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Datum: 2018-09-10T02:32:50+0200<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">Von: "Ronal W. Larson" <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US">An: "Discussion of biomass" <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>, "Norbert Senf" <<a href="mailto:norbert.senf@gmail.com" target="_blank">norbert.senf@gmail.com</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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who does testing, any simple low-cost test systems for CO and PM2.5 you can recommend for small stoves ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Ha, ha, it is not the "feds" that was the worry. The comment came from a meeting, that included regulators, where the discussion turned to the new mandatory on-site testing requirement for PM for domestic installations
in Germany. The German regulation was made contingent on the development of mobile PM testing equipment, which they now have (Wohler 500, Testo 380). The Americans at the meeting noted that this could never be implemented in the U.S. because you would need
to issue bullet-proof vests for the inspectors ;-) .......N<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:ndesai@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank">ndesai@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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You reminded me of a movie ~1970/2 about illegal distilleries in parts of Appalachia. The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms -- the synergistic confluence of public interest - were known as "the Feds", as was the FBI.<br>
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What struck me was the smoke from wood burning in backyard stills.<br>
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No wonder the northeast electric utility engineers I worked with called the EPA as "the Feds", using language similar to that of the hooch makers of rural Tennessee (who had lost their lands to the Federal government when TVA was created in the 1930s.)<br>
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I still cannot tell if WHO is a hooch maker or BATF-style kitchen kops.<br>
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An old colleague moved to Montreal ten years ago; used to work on clean air and climate policy with me. I will ask him about the stove change out. In US, the problem isn't the guns of the Feds but resistance of state and local governments to interference by
the EPA, science running amok with political steroids. Just as with GACC.<br>
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Masonry Stove Builders<br>
25 Brouse Road, RR 5<br>
Shawville Québec J0X 2Y0<br>
819.647.5092<br>
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