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<p class="MsoNormal">Not water gas. Just char gasification to create char-gas.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a> Skype: paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stoves <stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anand Karve<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] 1934 TLUD wood, charcoal and coal gasifier - in a Citroen!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do you mean that the gas used for running the car was water gas? I am not an expert in this but I did some experiments on making water gas from charcoal and found that one needed temperature in the vicinity of 700C for charcoal to combine
with water. It may be feasible today with the help of the car battery and induction heating. Yours A.D.Karve<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri 9 Nov, 2018, 04:13 Andrew Heggie <<a href="mailto:aj.heggie@gmail.com">aj.heggie@gmail.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 22:28, Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Crispin,<br>
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> Such cars are NOT operated as a TLUD device with a MPF. These are coal gasifiers that can be updraft or downdraft, with the hot zone near the bottom right from the beginning.<br>
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I agree and there are also a couple of ambiguities in the various<br>
links that refer to this car:<br>
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While the model was first produced in 1934 this example appears to<br>
have been converted circa 1940<br>
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Some say it had two reactors whereas the you tube clip suggests one<br>
and a filtering system in the opposite fender<br>
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Reference is made to lighting coal and methane being produced 30<br>
minutes later, the reality is that it would be carbon monoxide that<br>
was produced. Even in town gas plants the temperatures were such that<br>
methane was split and the carbon partially oxidised thus giving<br>
hydrogen and carbon monoxide. This town gas would have run the engine<br>
better and there are several archives showing cars with a gas bladder<br>
on the roof, filled with town gas in UK.<br>
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It does actually look like charcoal rather than coal in the link to<br>
youtube that Crispin sent and there may well have been a preference<br>
for this or coke as it would mean the gas stream, though lacking in<br>
hydrogen, would have been cleaner and thus contaminated inlet valves,<br>
rings and oil less.<br>
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