<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Anil:<div><br></div><div>“GOI in its stupidity” is a redundancy. </div><div><br></div><div>I wonder if this is GoI’s answer to Kirk Smith and GACC theology of “no stacking” and holding all solid fuels unhealthy by definition. </div><div><br></div><div>The luminaries at Teri and IIT-Delhi have nothing to say about the risks? Perhaps they have developed perfect combustion systems and fuel storage and handling facilities. </div><div><br></div><div>Methanol CAN be used safely, I learned decades ago, and by now there must have been a diverse set of experience. </div><div><br></div><div>I do not rule out the possibility that even the courtier scientists of Delhi Sultanate and the USEPA do something other than blind people with their “best science”. </div><div><br></div><div>After all, blindness from methanol ingestion is not new to India, nor is it a premature death from air pollution. </div><div><br></div><div>Nikhil <br><div dir="ltr"><br>On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:05 PM, nari phaltan <<a href="mailto:nariphaltan@gmail.com">nariphaltan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)">Stovers,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)">We pioneered in early 2000 the <a href="https://nariphaltan.org/ethstove.pdf">development of low concentration ethanol stove</a>. However testing them in rural huts we found high amounts of CO emitted. This gave headaches to few hut dwellers. There is a propensity of higher CO emissions in ethanol/methanol fuels. They should be taken care of properly. Thus the combustion systems have to be better designed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)">GOI in its stupidity is pushing all these things irrespective of their consequences. They are also pushing for ethanol production for cars from different biomass fuels. Stovers might like to read about a small essay that I wrote about it recently. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><a href="https://www.thebetterindia.com/167321/sugar-replacement-eco-friendly-ethanol-production-india/">https://www.thebetterindia.com/167321/sugar-replacement-eco-friendly-ethanol-production-india/</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)">Cheers.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)">Anil</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(53,28,117)"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Nimbkar Agricultural Research Institute (NARI)<br>Tambmal, Phaltan-Lonand Road<br>P.O.Box 44<br>Phaltan-415523, Maharashtra, India<br>Ph:+91-9168937964<br><a href="mailto:e-mail%3Anariphaltan@gmail.com" target="_blank">e-mail:nariphaltan@gmail.com</a><br> <a href="mailto:nariphaltan@nariphaltan.org" target="_blank">nariphaltan@nariphaltan.org</a><br><br><a href="http://www.nariphaltan.org" target="_blank">http://www.nariphaltan.org</a><br><br><a href="http://nariphaltan.org/narisouvenir.pdf" target="_blank">http://nariphaltan.org/narisouvenir.pdf</a> (Fifty Years of NARI)<br><br></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:58 AM Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12px"><a href="https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/energy/oil-gas/niti-aayog-pushes-for-methanol-as-cooking-fuel/articleshow/67116092.cms" target="_blank">Niti Aayog pushes for methanol as cooking fuel </a> Economic Times (India) 16 December 2018.</span><br style="background:transparent;font-size:12px;margin:0px;outline:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial"><br>Niti Aayog - the former Planning Commission, the new name means Policy Venture or something like that - has something to at last, after a mix of good and bad energy policy advice. <br><br>The interesting part is the commercial ("hotels") market and large-scale fuel production. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>"
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12px">A senior government official told ET work is on full swing to introduce methanol-run cooking stoves. “After Assam, we are eyeing Uttar Pradesh and then Maharashtra to provide such stoves in households. </span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12px">Simultaneously, we have tied up with some hotels in Bengaluru to use methanol stoves,” said the official, requesting not to be identified. “Next in line would be big temples, gurdwaras and ashrams where cooking is done on a massive scale daily.” There was a pilot launch of methanol stoves in Assam in October. "</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:12px"><br></span></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Until methanol is consumed orally. I don't know if inhaling causes any damage. So long as it is not picked up by Kirk Smith's monitors as PM2.5, I guess it's safe. <br><br>N </div>
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