<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">List: cc Crispin<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Below, Paul has kindly replied below to my request for answers to Crispin's question (below) on differences and new results. There is an enormous amount of data hinted at below. I've read a lot of it - but not yet all. There are hints here on why the good results, but still plenty of room for more advances possible by members of this list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I had no trouble getting to his Dropbox means of getting to his many different files. Please let Paul or I know if you have a problem.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The first (018.jpg) is a better image of the flame that I forwarded earlier. Paul notes he might need to lower the pot a bit; I hope we can have more discussion on that topic. Here, Paul reminds us of (and gives credit to) the excellent early TLUD stove work by Belonio. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Then a paragraph (no URLS) on the lower stove components. One surprise is some preheating of primary air. Another - a much simplified bottom.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Then a short paragraph (no URL) on his new fan/blower positioning. Like the above, we could have a separate thread on this topic.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Then a URL to nine jpg drawings of the full unit. Paul is an expert with graphic software.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Then a link to a 14 page Master's thesis by Australian Alli Devlin. I thought very well don, but is missing her many citations. I haven't tried to work it out, but looks like Paul has a Tier 5 stove; very high efficiency. The final paragraphs make the important point that many countries suffering from a shortage of trees probably have plenty of ag wastes - that are perfect (as pellets) for TLUDs. A strong case for the made-char going into soils as biochar.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The final link is to a 189 page summary paper by Paul (dated today). The stove portion is about 20 pages follow by some 20 pages on biochar. The 14 page Alli Devlin piece is in here with some expansion. I haven't tried to count, but there must be more than twice as many links and citations as pages. I need still to return to dozens of leads.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>There is a lot here on hoods, health, venting vs capturing emissions, etc. Paul has mentioned 25 papers by Dr. Reg Preston on ag results of using biochar - mostly (all?) supplied by Paul. Great technical data on why char-making stoves can be hugely important in developing countries.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>In sum, I believe most list members will gain a lot by devoting a few days to the rich material that Paul has provided free access to in the following reply from himself.</div><div>.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Ron</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Paul Olivier <<a href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com" class="">paul.olivier@esrla.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [Stoves] Fwd: Forward of moderated message</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">January 7, 2019 at 2:45:07 PM MST<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Ronal W. Larson" <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Ron,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">I took a Belonio burner and added to it a housing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This got rid of the long, candle-like flame and gave rise to a series of flamelets right under the pot.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl0kzwrbqzy2u32/018.jpg?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl0kzwrbqzy2u32/018.jpg?dl=0</a><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Recent testing shows that this burner with housing is only 11% less efficient than a gas burner.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">However, the distance between flame outlet and the bottom of a pot could be shortened by 10 or 15 mm.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This might improve efficiency considerably.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">With a burner housing, the secondary air is heated and routed horizontally under mild pressure at the base of the 80 burner holes.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This effects a forced mixing of hot secondary air with hot syngas.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This burner configuration has been in place for about 5 years.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Then I went on to put a housing around the reactor to heat primary air.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Primary air enters tangentially at the top of the housing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">It swirls around the reactor and moves all the way down the reactor.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Then the hot primary comes up through the grate at the bottom of the reactor.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">The hot air coming up through the biomass dries the biomass.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">The housing has no bottom.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">The housing is simply situated on a floor tile.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This makes it easy to access the grate for repair.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Also I changed the fan assembly.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">I got rid of the electronics used to control the speed of the fan.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">There is a simple dial in front of the fan to regulate the flow of primary air.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">As the dial is turned to restrict the flow of air, electrical consumption drops to almost zero.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">These jpegs show the latest design:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pf4yjyjlffnggbo/AACOOnxdQ8q1z6XmnInNOh27a?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pf4yjyjlffnggbo/AACOOnxdQ8q1z6XmnInNOh27a?dl=0</a><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Here is a study on the emissions of CO, particulate matter and benzine of this gasifier:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/ve7ppezks8c5far/Thesis%20Alli%20Devlin.docx?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/s/ve7ppezks8c5far/Thesis%20Alli%20Devlin.docx?dl=0</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Finally, take a look at this Summary paper.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This paper summaries several studies conducted by Dr. T.R. Preston on the biochar from my gasifier:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbarsaz89mvtglw/Summary.pdf?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbarsaz89mvtglw/Summary.pdf?dl=0</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">This paper also explains how gasifiers and biochar fit into a larger picture of waste transformation.<br class=""></div>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large">Paul<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:large"><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 3:25 AM Ronal W. Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Paul:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Your answer?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" target="_blank" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><b class="">Re: [Stoves] Fwd: Forward of moderated message</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">January 7, 2019 at 9:47:20 AM MST<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" class="">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class="">Dear Ron and Andrew<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class="">How is this different from what Paul O has been making for several years? The quality of the workmanship is Vietnam is very high.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class="">How is the fan powered?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class="">Regards<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class="">Crispin<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">List:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Recently, I've had some interesting dialogs with Paul Olivier. If you go to<span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eslra.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7f420f923765406dc09e08d674b96f7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636824737115090128&sdata=8yCOLEjk2IThBp8f7wNXDMq%2BJepMarkvLB%2BH96fH%2BPM%3D&reserved=0" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">www.eslra.com</a>, and <a href="https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fepwt.vn%2Fen%2Fhome%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7f420f923765406dc09e08d674b96f7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636824737115090128&sdata=p2uX%2FhMZFm7UHozeAzoeq9pvHXq9WyXO9frzBu6CpNE%3D&reserved=0" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class=""><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif" class="">http://epwt.vn/en/home/</span></a> you'll find more like the content which follows (whose 1.2 MW size I hope is not too much - and perhaps Andrew can find a fix, if needed). This sort of stove is available in Vietnam for about $75. Mostly stainless. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Paul is looking for places in other countries to hand off large scale manufacture and/or assembly. Dies for the manufacture of parts can be obtained - at cost (Paul not in this to make money). Paul can supply more information to anyone interested in getting into large-scale activities. But lets be respectful of his time - general simple questions shouldn't be one-on-one.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">But independent of that, I hope all will look carefully at the photo below (sixth from end) showing the best pyrolysis gas flame I have yet seen. Nothing wispy about this. I don't have all the details, but I don't recall any TLUD design like this - which clearly only has a flame just below the cookpot. No secondary air or flame anywhere near the char-bed. Paul has not yet calculated turn-down ratio - but it is large. With pellets, this height stove can last for more than three hours. With rice hulls, less than an hour. He can fill the stove near to the top - so considerable savings on materials above the unlit fuel.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">There are 80 small holes - giving 40 flamelets - obviously groups of 2. What is the general principal here? How can the hole design be changed to get 80 shorter flames? Or 20 larger? Or is 40 about the right number? Should we be thinking slits? <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Your thoughts on Paul's advances?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Ron<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Begin forwarded message:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">From:<span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Paul Olivier <<a href="mailto:paul.olivier@esrla.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">paul.olivier@esrla.com</a>></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Subject:<span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">updated</span></b><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Date:<span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">January 5, 2019 at 5:11:26 PM MST</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">To:<span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Ron Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Georgia,serif" class="">Ron, here is a small update.<br clear="all" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">--<span class="gmail-m_-7264540336489824356Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family:Georgia,serif" class="">Paul A. Olivier PhD<br class="">27/2bis Phu Dong Thien Vuong<br class="">Dalat<br class="">Vietnam<br class=""><br class="">Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam)<br class="">Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam)<br class="">Skype address: Xpolivier<br class=""><a href="https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fepwt.vn%2Fen%2Fhome%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7f420f923765406dc09e08d674b96f7b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636824737115090128&sdata=p2uX%2FhMZFm7UHozeAzoeq9pvHXq9WyXO9frzBu6CpNE%3D&reserved=0" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank" class="">http://epwt.vn/en/home/</a></span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" 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