<div dir="ltr">Hi Nikhil<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your email. Hope you are doing allright.<br><div><br></div><div>I get what you say about the fuel itself being dirty.</div><div><br></div><div>Over the course of the last few months, trying to promote the Anderson TLUD, I have come to understand that most rural people still cook predominantly with biomass and will continue to do so. There is this whole issue about how firewood and charcoal is regulated and I will try to spend some time after the elections are over to understand the regulations. </div><div><br></div><div>Women do not take nicely to shaping wood for burning as is required in the TLUD and would rather continue with the convenience of shoving in whatever is available. In order to get the stoves out, I am tempted to offer shaped / cut wood to families , do you think this could work ? This would be accompanied by a charcoal buy back arrangement. I can see some kind of a rural cooking solution business - village store selling stoves and fuel [ including briquettes and pellets which are locally produced]. Could you tell me what you think. </div><div><br></div><div>I am yet to detail out the exercise, but your initial feedback will allow me to invest to understand how to promote clean burning wood pellet stoves.</div><div><br></div><div>Looking forward to hearing from you.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div><div>Sujoy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:34 PM Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">One aspect to investigate is how a fuel company (through the government) gets to say that other “fuels” are dirty, while they say theirs is “clean”, when there are clean-burning devices that use wood, kerosene and LPG,
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is straight perfidy. A high crime, not a misdemeanour. The pro-LPG-to-replace-wood-and-kerosene campaign is based on a lie: that fuels are to be rated, not the devices together with the fuels that use them.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In short, they are not testing pollution in homes from modern devices
<i>which are available</i> they are comparing them with old technologies and saying that the fuel itself is the cause of the problem, not the old stoves. Apples and oranges.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So a kerosene lamp that is profoundly clean, is rated (in the mind of the program) as “dirty” not because it produces any “dirt” but because it uses kerosene.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thus, by their definition, all turbojet aircraft such as the Boeing 777 Dreamliner and an Airbus A340 are “dirty” because they use kerosene as fuel. After all, the fuel is inherently dirty, then the aircraft must also be dirty. There are
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<p class="MsoNormal">Same with wood. Don’t use a modern stove like Inyenyeri does, that is not allowed, because the fuel, wood, is “dirty” already, so no stove can be “clean”, right?
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t care who is supporting the silly meme. If the program is marketed based on a lie to get subsidies and unfair smearing of competition with no right of reply, it should be stopped and the right people rightfully punished.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Imagine how much good could be done promoting clean burning wood pellet stoves without any long term subsidy of the fuel, with all jobs created in India and no long term imported fuel!
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<p class="MsoNormal">Find the right button and push it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>Hi nikhil <br>
Design a study and let us bring forth. <br>
Regards <br>
Sujoy <u></u><u></u></p>
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This doesn't show that Ujjwala failed. <br>
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The consumer prevailed. Stacking empowers women. Kirk Smith's public health fascism failed.<br>
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I am curious if upper-income households in areas with improved grid reliability show growth in sales of electric kettles and water heaters, rice cookers, microwave and induction stoves.<br>
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Forget fuel fetishism. Improving wood quality, charcoaling, and better combustion, are still marketable options. <br>
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Or quality wood better be left for lumber. Let cooks and appliance sellers do what they want. Enough of "international standards" and aDALYs, academic junk.<br>
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