<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">List:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This is to hope for a bit of additional brainstorming on the dissemination aspects of Kevin’s work with rocks. Anyone know how to get the attention of Bill and Melinda Gates? Any other similar Philanthropists?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">See below.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 9, 2019, at 12:42 AM, K McLean <<a href="mailto:info@sun24.solar" class="">info@sun24.solar</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Rocks beds:</div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">1. Are a free <b class="">idea</b> (as opposed to a product);</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">2. Are simple; and</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">3. Provide the user with something highly desired (saved time and/or money).</div></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">This combination allows for rapid and inexpensive dissemination. (Is this combination unique in the aid world?)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I believe that in a couple years and at relatively little cost (tens of millions of dollars), half of households worldwide using traditional wood cookstoves could be permanently using rock beds, cutting fuel usage by a third.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: </b><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Maybe 3 billion people might benefit. With maybe 2 modified stoves per household and 6 people per family and getting to half of those, means 500 million stoves as an initial target. Dividing by a $25 million ask, this is 20 stoves per dollar - or 5 cents each stove - most of the money going once only to local trainers - none to the stoves themselves. <div class=""> </div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>This can impact both wood and charcoal users. Again, no materials are being moved around. Only ideas.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I suggest that Kevin is also the right person to handle this expansion of what he is presently doing. Probably will be able to hand some money back. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>see one more note below.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Kevin</div></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 12:43 AM Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div id="gmail-m_3003276853614087253gmail-m_6342508230527102213m_3889406993737392524m_2036393810295384431gmail-m_716124467824420130response_container_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="outline:none" class="">
<div name="BB10" id="gmail-m_3003276853614087253gmail-m_6342508230527102213m_3889406993737392524m_2036393810295384431gmail-m_716124467824420130BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%" class="">Dear Nikhil </div>
<div name="BB10" id="gmail-m_3003276853614087253gmail-m_6342508230527102213m_3889406993737392524m_2036393810295384431gmail-m_716124467824420130BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%" class=""><br class="">
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<div name="BB10" id="gmail-m_3003276853614087253gmail-m_6342508230527102213m_3889406993737392524m_2036393810295384431gmail-m_716124467824420130BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%" class="">I'd like to prepare a message in a similar vein. How is it possible that simple measures such as aerating the fuel bed have not been taken up at scale?</div>
<div name="BB10" id="gmail-m_3003276853614087253gmail-m_6342508230527102213m_3889406993737392524m_2036393810295384431gmail-m_716124467824420130BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%" class=""><br class="">
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<div name="BB10" id="gmail-m_3003276853614087253gmail-m_6342508230527102213m_3889406993737392524m_2036393810295384431gmail-m_716124467824420130BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%" class="">This concept is not new at all. There are three products I can think of that were brought forward in say, ten years, which did exactly the same thing. When Kevin first reported to
me his effort to have very simple changes - the metal rod bent into a flat "U" - we had a discussion about other ways people have tried. The clay grate we were shown at the meeting is exactly the same as the grate in the Improved Kitchen stoves promoted 10
years ago in Central Java. Exactly. </div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: Kevin is not now proposing either metal rods or clay (or metal) grates. Only rocks. I know of nothing in the stove literature on using zero-cost rocks.</b></div></div><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><snip rest as not being about rocks or trainers></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div></div></body></html>