<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Paul: <br><br>Your computations assume t hat a user has only one stove and that is charcoal. I think the UNDP report estimate of per household charcoal use for households that did use charcoal (unclear if exclusively)was about 600-700 kg a year. If the new stove reduces consumption by 50% - very doubtful - that would mean 300-350 kg a year. Does that amount to 1 ton CO2 a year if the fNRB is not 1 but 0.5? <br><br>Is it possible Ghana had no choice but to sell cheap, given the uncertainty about Article 6 of the Paris Agreement and the possibility that there would be no carryover of carbon credits under the CDM to post-2020 regime?<br><br>Beggars can't be choosers. I am sure the South Koreans are spending a third to a half of the money on implementation costs and computational consultants. <br><br>If fuel use reduction is attractive to users, why are Koreans needed in the first place? <br><br>Something is wrong, big time, in the way we have dreamed about carbon finance for the poor. Even more so with biomass cookstoves. <br><br>This one story says Ghana has too much power and gas. Giving away gas and electric stoves could be the win-win-win you are looking for.
<a href="https://www.myjoyonline.com/business/2019/November-15th/energy-surplus-leaves-ghana-paying-for-power-it-doesnt-need.php">https://www.myjoyonline.com/business/2019/November-15th/energy-surplus-leaves-ghana-paying-for-power-it-doesnt-need.php</a> <br><br>Nikhil<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="georgia, serif">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Nikhil Desai</font></div><div><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif"><br><i>Skype: nikhildesai888</i><br></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 9:53 PM Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nikhil,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for bringing that Ghana / South Korea item to our attention. I would have missed it otherwise.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Using the provided numbers, there will be 500,000 stoves with an average life of 4 years (3 – 5). I think that charcoal stoves could be credited with 1 to 2 carbon credits (CC) per year. ( I will use 1 CC/yr and then it is simple to
multiply it larger if merited)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That would be 500,000 CC per year X 4 years = 2 million CC for the total project.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cost of project is estimated at US$5.5 million, but did not say if all of that money was from South Korea. Assuming 90% ($5 million), then the South Koreans are acquiring carbon credits at US$ 2.50 per CC. (check my math, but I think
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, if the stoves last 5 years, or if the S. Korean funds are less than the $5 million, or it the CC per stove is greater than 1.0 (say 1.5 or 2.0), the South Korean expense per CC would be even less, maybe even only half.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Good Public Relations for South Korea and a rock bottom price for CC to help South Korea meet its climate commitments.
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Some cookstove improvements in Ghana, including creating some local jobs and $10 per stove investment into the economy.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. Some reduction in carbon emissions to the atmosphere, which is climate positive.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That makes it a Win – Win – Win situation. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How come there is not more of this being done? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And why $10 per stove for a charcoal burner when better “bang for the buck” can be had with other stoves? (and some of us are working toward a $10 TLUD-ND with much more benefits).
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<u> </u><br></p></div><div style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>
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