<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I think a biochar Friday is an excellent idea. Will be there.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Norm</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM <<a href="mailto:stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Stoves mailing list submissions to<br>
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3. Re: [tluds] Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS (K McLean)<br>
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 15:40:00 -0700<br>
From: Ronal Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
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Cc: Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:ndesai@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank">ndesai@alum.mit.edu</a>>, dan weinshenker<br>
<<a href="mailto:danweinshenker@gmail.com" target="_blank">danweinshenker@gmail.com</a>>, "Paul S. Anderson" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>,<br>
"Kevin McLean >" <info@sun24.solar><br>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Fwd: "The effects of fuel type and stove design<br>
on ..." - new citations<br>
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The direct link that Dan refers to is: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com/2016/09/30/deganga-tlud-project-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com/2016/09/30/deganga-tlud-project-2016/</a> <<a href="http://www.drtlud.com/2016/09/30/deganga-tlud-project-2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com/2016/09/30/deganga-tlud-project-2016/</a>> <br>
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I have just re-read it, and find areas that both support Dan?s positives and some of my concerns (such as needing a subsidized price - and little char getting into the ground).<br>
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Kevin?s name is here again (my only cc for my 24 Dec. message - still below) because he has been emphasizing zero cost modifications for cooking. I know he can accept low cost if the units can make money. How low does low have to be?<br>
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Dan?s remarks help me to respond to Nikhil?s comments to me (see below) - who I am afraid didn?t discuss anything (at all) about TLUD interventions. Dan is too modest to say so - but he is producing a lot of char while heating his (self-designed and self-built) home in Southern Colorado. Char used as biochar. Those going to ETHOS would be well advised to seek out Dan.<br>
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Nikhil - would you be good enough to speak (as an Economist) to a few of the many parts of Paul?s 2016 report.<br>
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Paul: any (third-year) update that would help this particular thread? I am particularly impressed at the large potential annual income that can be earned. It looks like one can claim a payback time of only a few months. Anything new on produced char becoming biochar?<br>
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Ron<br>
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> On Dec 25, 2019, at 5:41 PM, dan weinshenker <<a href="mailto:danweinshenker@gmail.com" target="_blank">danweinshenker@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I'm wondering about your evaluation of the project "Case Study of the Acceptance of Champion TLUD Gasifier Stoves in the Deganga Area, Ganges Delta, India" ? Report available on Paul Anderson's DrTLUD website. Project has expanded significantly even since this report.<br>
> <br>
> Seems like this is a high adoption program, thousands of stoves, numbers increasing year by year, with year after year sustained success. It also has many related business components, from cooks earning money; charcoal collectors; charcoal purchases; management and coordination services; stove manufacturer; subsidized purchase finance, etc.<br>
> <br>
> All and everybody helping the whole; everybody making money. Nobody getting rich, but enough incentives all around.<br>
> <br>
> To me, seems like a great total business plan. Works because it's comprehensive.<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 9:06 AM Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com" target="_blank">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com" target="_blank">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> Ron:<br>
> <br>
> You asked for thoughts, so I will offer mine. As an economist, I ought to know how money is made. (Raising grants. Administering grants. By publishing papers and holding fourth at conferences, performing "show and tell" before poor women, a form of poverty and climate tourism. Or taking a cut of the CDM or VER markets to ensure that the poor are properly penalized if their biomass is sourced renewably.)<br>
> <br>
> Stoves don't make money. People make money. That is a likely clue to why charcoal-making stoves don't sell themselves as much as you believe they should; there are too many cooks making sure that the broth is spoiled. <br>
> <br>
> And people "make money" when they do something financially profitable - earning a return on their investment in the stove, their feedstock, and their labor. <br>
> <br>
> It may well be that your favorite charcoal-making stoves are not profitable enough in all contexts. Or that non-cooks are busy baking their own cake in the name of the poor. (EPA and Gates Foundation consultants, to be precise.)<br>
> <br>
> Nikhil<br>
> <br>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> Nikhil Desai<br>
> (US +1) 202 568 5831<br>
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> <br>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 12:52 PM Ronal Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> List: cc Kevin<br>
> <br>
> I recommend this (non-fee) overview article shown below. The free pdf version is at: <a href="https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5141191?class=pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5141191?class=pdf</a> <<a href="https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5141191?class=pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5141191?class=pdf</a>>.<br>
> <br>
> This is a nice stove-breakdown list - that they mostly cover:<br>
> <br>
> (a) According to technology used: Traditional and Improved cookstove <br>
> (b) According to draft or air supply: Natural draft and Forced draft <br>
> (c) According to combustion mechanism: Direct combustion and Gasifier <br>
> (d) According to fuel used: wood, Dung cake, charcoal, residue crops, Multi-fuels <br>
> (e) According to material: Mud, Brick, Ceramic, Metal and Hybrid <br>
> (f) According to fuel feeding: Batch feeding or continuous feeding <br>
> (g) According to utility: Domestic size or Community size <br>
> (h) According to chimney used: Cookstove with chimney or cookstove without chimney <br>
> (i) According to portability: Portable or fixed type <br>
> (j) According to pot used: Single pot or multiple pots <br>
> <br>
> I would add one more:<br>
> k). According to money flow: Make money or spend money while cooking<br>
> <br>
> Obviously there should be some stove-user interest in money-making. The only way I am aware of is making charcoal. Others? <br>
> <br>
> So this k) option is already possible as a part of c) Gasifier (meaning only TLUD in this paper). But (unfortunately) not much of k) is now happening as part of c). Nor is marketing of char discussed in this article.<br>
> <br>
> But there are many ways to make charcoal and some of the other ways are potentially applicable to cooking tasks. I?m working on a message on these other non-TLUD ways - and would welcome on-list or off-list dialog if anyone else is doing that.<br>
> <br>
> If we discuss k) seriously, it seems that k) can involve EVERY one of the breakdowns a) through j). I am concentrating now on modifications of both the ?Traditional? and ?improved" parts of a). This category can also expand what is covered in a) through j). For instance, b) can include ?no draft?. e) may have other options than those shown. f) might have ?and? as well as ?or?.<br>
> <br>
> This paper is a nice summary of much past work, but is essentially silent on k) - the making of char/money while cooking. No discussion of how char influences efficiency computation.<br>
> <br>
> Thoughts?<br>
> <br>
> Ron<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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>> Subject: "The effects of fuel type and stove design on ..." - new citations<br>
>> Date: December 24, 2019 at 6:47:33 AM MST<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><br>
>> <br>
>> Evolution of high performance and low emission biomass cookstoves-an overview <<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5141191&hl=en&sa=X&d=17213963389128872961&scisig=AAGBfm0-waMeF4PChI8-x6xowjhFKrv5zg&nossl=1&oi=scholaralrt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?url=https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5141191&hl=en&sa=X&d=17213963389128872961&scisig=AAGBfm0-waMeF4PChI8-x6xowjhFKrv5zg&nossl=1&oi=scholaralrt</a>><br>
>> C Samal, PC Mishra, S Mukherjee, D Das - AIP Conference Proceedings, 2019<br>
>> As a huge rural population worldwide is depending on open-fired or traditional <br>
>> cookstoves to meet daily domestic energy needs, improvement of thermal efficiency <br>
>> and reduction of harmful emissions are essential. Accordingly, many researchers are ?<br>
>> <<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_share?hl=en&oi=scholaralrt&ss=tw&url=https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5141191&rt=Evolution+of+high+performance+and+low+emission+biomass+cookstoves-an+overview&scisig=AAGBfm2ygNIluhutGJVItASU2b5RP-mSqA" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com/scholar_share?hl=en&oi=scholaralrt&ss=tw&url=https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5141191&rt=Evolution+of+high+performance+and+low+emission+biomass+cookstoves-an+overview&scisig=AAGBfm2ygNIluhutGJVItASU2b5RP-mSqA</a>> <<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_share?hl=en&oi=scholaralrt&ss=fb&url=https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5141191&rt=Evolution+of+high+performance+and+low+emission+biomass+cookstoves-an+overview&scisig=AAGBfm2ygNIluhutGJVItASU2b5RP-mSqA" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com/scholar_share?hl=en&oi=scholaralrt&ss=fb&url=https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5141191&rt=Evolution+of+high+performance+and+low+emission+biomass+cookstoves-an+overview&scisig=AAGBfm2ygNIluhutGJVItASU2b5RP-mSqA</a>><br>
>> "The effects of fuel type and stove design on emissions and efficiency of natural-draft semi-gasifier biomass cookstoves" - new citations<br>
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From: "Anderson, Paul" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
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Subject: [Stoves] FW: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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To all,<br>
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Last Saturday 21 Dec, I sent the message below to three listservs. I am resending it because I have received not one single response about the proposal for Biochar Friday on 24 January 2020 in the Seattle/Kirkland area.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
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Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
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From: Anderson, Paul<br>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:14 AM<br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; Biochar Group <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>>; tluds@biochar. groups. io <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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Biochar Friday 2020 (The attachment is exactly like the message below, but is in .docx format.)<br>
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Dear all (but directed to those who deal with Biochar issues and/or who could be attending the ETHOS meeting in Kirkland, Washington on 24 - 26 January 2020),<br>
<br>
Within the regular attendees of ETHOS there is a "mini-sub-group" with an interest in biochar, especially the production of biochar such as with TLUD cookstoves and barrels and other small pyrolysis devices. Because we are together each year, it is proposed that we have a separate (but coordinated) meeting about biochar on the Friday (24 January this year) before ETHOS starts.<br>
<br>
After some few comments from others via email, I have made the following arrangements for the Biochar Friday group:<br>
<br>
1. The Biochar Friday group is to have its first gathering on 24 January 2020.<br>
<br>
2. The meeting room of the Kirkland Inn (connected to the breakfast room) has been reserved for the morning of 24 January. ETHOS controls that meeting room from noon onward. (There is no option to meet at Shari's restaurant.)<br>
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3. We will gather at 8:00 AM, with an on-time official start at 9:00 AM. Tom Miles has offered to provide a summary of the status of international (and USA/North America) biochar activities (not just about the organizations called "Biochar Initiatives.") How much time he has will be determined after others have had a chance to make proposals for the use of the time. One additional topic could be the role of PyCC (Pyrolytic Carbon Capture) to assist the battle against climate change. Perhaps there will be some panel discussions, depending on who attends. It will NOT be with academic presentations. The focus is NOT on the agricultural / soil / micro-fauna / etc. aspects of biochar, but such can be mentioned.<br>
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4. We will ask ETHOS leadership if we can extend our time past noon, up to the time when ETHOS will have its use of the room (usually starting at 1:00 or 1:30 PM).<br>
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5. Because the Woodgas TLUD stoves are makers of charcoal / biochar, they could be featured in the afternoon time reserved for ETHOS, but that is up for discussion.<br>
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6. Upon expiration of any time for Biochar topics in the room, the Biochar Friday group is at liberty to move to another location (not defined). If the group is small, that will be easy. If numerous, we can be creative with specialty groups or focus groups.<br>
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***************<br>
So, the Biochar Friday event is now official. It is open to everyone. You can make your travel arrangements to allow your presence at the event. Remember to register for the ETHOS meeting (at <a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ethoscon.com</a><<a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ethoscon.com</a>> , and to reserve your room at the Baymont Inn at Seattle/Kirkland: 425-947-1030 (and say that you are with ETHOS.)<br>
<br>
There is no charge for Biochar Friday but donations to cover the room rental (AM only) will be accepted at the event (unless we find a sponsor).<br>
<br>
This announcement is going to three (3) Listservs but could be forward to others by you: Biochar group, Stoves Listserv, tluds Listserv. And ETHOS could send it to its mailing list. Please reply to your respective listservs, but know that not everyone will see your replies. Especially if you expect to attend the Biochar Friday, be sure that I receive notification ( <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> ).<br>
<br>
I (we) are looking for some volunteers, but not sure what duties there are to be undertaken.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 22:26:14 -0500<br>
From: K McLean <info@sun24.solar><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a><br>
Cc: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<br>
<<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>, Biochar Group<br>
<<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>>, "Anderson, Paul" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] [tluds] Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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I need to learn more about biochar. I arrive Thursday so Friday for<br>
biochar is good. Thanks, Paul.<br>
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On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Paul S Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Biochar Friday 2020 (The attachment is exactly like the message below,<br>
> but is in .docx format.)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear all (but directed to those who deal with Biochar issues and/or<br>
> who could be attending the ETHOS meeting in Kirkland, Washington on 24 ? 26<br>
> January 2020),<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Within the regular attendees of ETHOS there is a ?mini-sub-group? with an<br>
> interest in biochar, especially the production of biochar such as with TLUD<br>
> cookstoves and barrels and other small pyrolysis devices. Because we are<br>
> together each year, it is proposed that we have a separate (but<br>
> coordinated) meeting about biochar on the Friday (24 January this year)<br>
> before ETHOS starts.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> After some few comments from others via email, I have made the following<br>
> arrangements for the Biochar Friday group:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 1. The Biochar Friday group is to have its first gathering on 24 January<br>
> 2020.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2. The meeting room of the Kirkland Inn (connected to the breakfast room)<br>
> has been reserved for the *morning* of 24 January. ETHOS controls that<br>
> meeting room from noon onward. (There is no option to meet at Shari?s<br>
> restaurant.)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 3. We will gather at 8:00 AM, with an on-time official start at 9:00<br>
> AM. Tom Miles has offered to provide a summary of the status of<br>
> international (and USA/North America) biochar activities (not just about<br>
> the organizations called ?Biochar Initiatives.?) How much time he has<br>
> will be determined after others have had a chance to make proposals for the<br>
> use of the time. One additional topic could be the role of PyCC<br>
> (Pyrolytic Carbon Capture) to assist the battle against climate change.<br>
> Perhaps there will be some panel discussions, depending on who attends.<br>
> It will NOT be with academic presentations. The focus is NOT on the<br>
> agricultural / soil / micro-fauna / etc. aspects of biochar, but such can<br>
> be mentioned.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 4. We will ask ETHOS leadership if we can extend our time past noon, up<br>
> to the time when ETHOS will have its use of the room (usually starting at<br>
> 1:00 or 1:30 PM).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 5. Because the Woodgas TLUD stoves are makers of charcoal / biochar, they<br>
> could be featured in the afternoon time reserved for ETHOS, but that is up<br>
> for discussion.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 6. Upon expiration of any time for Biochar topics in the room, the<br>
> Biochar Friday group is at liberty to move to another location (not<br>
> defined). If the group is small, that will be easy. If numerous, we can<br>
> be creative with specialty groups or focus groups.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ***************<br>
><br>
> So, the Biochar Friday event is now official. It is open to everyone.<br>
> You can make your travel arrangements to allow your presence at the event.<br>
> Remember to register for the ETHOS meeting (at <a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ethoscon.com</a> ,<br>
> and to reserve your room at the Baymont Inn at Seattle/Kirkland:<br>
> 425-947-1030 (and say that you are with ETHOS.)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> There is no charge for Biochar Friday but donations to cover the room<br>
> rental (AM only) will be accepted at the event (unless we find a<br>
> sponsor).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> This announcement is going to three (3) Listservs but could be forward to<br>
> others by you: Biochar group, Stoves Listserv, tluds Listserv. And<br>
> ETHOS could send it to its mailing list. Please reply to your respective<br>
> listservs, but know that not everyone will see your replies. Especially<br>
> if you expect to attend the Biochar Friday, be sure that I receive<br>
> notification ( <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> ).<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I (we) are looking for some volunteers, but not sure what duties there are<br>
> to be undertaken.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Paul<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><br>
><br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud<br>
><br>
> Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
><br>
> Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
><br>
> Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
><br>
> incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
><br>
> and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
><br>
> Author of ?*A Capitalist Carol*? (free digital copies at<br>
> <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a>)<br>
><br>
> with pages 88 ? 94 about solving the world crisis for clean<br>
> cookstoves.<br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 03:52:57 +0000<br>
From: "Anderson, Paul" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a>" <<a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a>>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>>, 'Discussion of<br>
biomass cooking stoves' <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] [tluds] [biochar] FW: Biochar Friday at the<br>
start of ETHOS<br>
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Tom and all,<br>
<br>
Feel free to resend my message (plus encouragements) to other people and lists.<br>
<br>
Please note that the full range of biochar topics (like microbes in biochar) is not being discussed. We are trying to link char making with cookstoves and other low cost devices.<br>
<br>
I am counting on others to help make this a meaningful gathering.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
<br>
From: <a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a> <<a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a>> On Behalf Of Tom Miles via Groups.Io<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 9:40 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; 'tluds@biochar. groups. io' <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tluds] [biochar] FW: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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Paul,<br>
<br>
I think the biochar Friday is a good idea. Maybe we need to get the word out to a broader list.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
From: <a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:24 PM<br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; tluds@biochar. groups. io <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>>; Biochar Group <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: [biochar] FW: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
<br>
<br>
To all,<br>
<br>
Last Saturday 21 Dec, I sent the message below to three listservs. I am resending it because I have received not one single response about the proposal for Biochar Friday on 24 January 2020 in the Seattle/Kirkland area.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
<br>
From: Anderson, Paul<br>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:14 AM<br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>>; Biochar Group <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>>>; tluds@biochar. groups. io <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>><br>
Subject: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
<br>
Biochar Friday 2020 (The attachment is exactly like the message below, but is in .docx format.)<br>
<br>
Dear all (but directed to those who deal with Biochar issues and/or who could be attending the ETHOS meeting in Kirkland, Washington on 24 - 26 January 2020),<br>
<br>
Within the regular attendees of ETHOS there is a "mini-sub-group" with an interest in biochar, especially the production of biochar such as with TLUD cookstoves and barrels and other small pyrolysis devices. Because we are together each year, it is proposed that we have a separate (but coordinated) meeting about biochar on the Friday (24 January this year) before ETHOS starts.<br>
<br>
After some few comments from others via email, I have made the following arrangements for the Biochar Friday group:<br>
<br>
1. The Biochar Friday group is to have its first gathering on 24 January 2020.<br>
<br>
2. The meeting room of the Kirkland Inn (connected to the breakfast room) has been reserved for the morning of 24 January. ETHOS controls that meeting room from noon onward. (There is no option to meet at Shari's restaurant.)<br>
<br>
3. We will gather at 8:00 AM, with an on-time official start at 9:00 AM. Tom Miles has offered to provide a summary of the status of international (and USA/North America) biochar activities (not just about the organizations called "Biochar Initiatives.") How much time he has will be determined after others have had a chance to make proposals for the use of the time. One additional topic could be the role of PyCC (Pyrolytic Carbon Capture) to assist the battle against climate change. Perhaps there will be some panel discussions, depending on who attends. It will NOT be with academic presentations. The focus is NOT on the agricultural / soil / micro-fauna / etc. aspects of biochar, but such can be mentioned.<br>
<br>
4. We will ask ETHOS leadership if we can extend our time past noon, up to the time when ETHOS will have its use of the room (usually starting at 1:00 or 1:30 PM).<br>
<br>
5. Because the Woodgas TLUD stoves are makers of charcoal / biochar, they could be featured in the afternoon time reserved for ETHOS, but that is up for discussion.<br>
<br>
6. Upon expiration of any time for Biochar topics in the room, the Biochar Friday group is at liberty to move to another location (not defined). If the group is small, that will be easy. If numerous, we can be creative with specialty groups or focus groups.<br>
<br>
***************<br>
So, the Biochar Friday event is now official. It is open to everyone. You can make your travel arrangements to allow your presence at the event. Remember to register for the ETHOS meeting (at <a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ethoscon.com</a><<a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ethoscon.com</a>> , and to reserve your room at the Baymont Inn at Seattle/Kirkland: 425-947-1030 (and say that you are with ETHOS.)<br>
<br>
There is no charge for Biochar Friday but donations to cover the room rental (AM only) will be accepted at the event (unless we find a sponsor).<br>
<br>
This announcement is going to three (3) Listservs but could be forward to others by you: Biochar group, Stoves Listserv, tluds Listserv. And ETHOS could send it to its mailing list. Please reply to your respective listservs, but know that not everyone will see your replies. Especially if you expect to attend the Biochar Friday, be sure that I receive notification ( <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> ).<br>
<br>
I (we) are looking for some volunteers, but not sure what duties there are to be undertaken.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
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Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 03:56:44 +0000<br>
From: "Anderson, Paul" <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a>" <<a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a>>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>>, 'Discussion of<br>
biomass cooking stoves' <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:Biochar@groups.io" target="_blank">Biochar@groups.io</a>" <<a href="mailto:Biochar@groups.io" target="_blank">Biochar@groups.io</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] [tluds] [biochar] FW: Biochar Friday at the<br>
start of ETHOS<br>
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Tom, I think that you and I are sending messages to the OLD biochar email address. This could be a common mistake by others, also. Do we need to delete the old address from our address books to prevent such errors?<br>
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Paul<br>
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Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a> <<a href="mailto:tluds@Biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@Biochar.groups.io</a>> On Behalf Of Tom Miles via Groups.Io<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 9:40 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; 'tluds@biochar. groups. io' <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tluds] [biochar] FW: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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Paul,<br>
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I think the biochar Friday is a good idea. Maybe we need to get the word out to a broader list.<br>
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Tom<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:24 PM<br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; tluds@biochar. groups. io <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>>; Biochar Group <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: [biochar] FW: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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To all,<br>
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Last Saturday 21 Dec, I sent the message below to three listservs. I am resending it because I have received not one single response about the proposal for Biochar Friday on 24 January 2020 in the Seattle/Kirkland area.<br>
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Paul<br>
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Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
<br>
From: Anderson, Paul<br>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:14 AM<br>
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>>; Biochar Group <<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a>>>; tluds@biochar. groups. io <<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:tluds@biochar.groups.io" target="_blank">tluds@biochar.groups.io</a>>><br>
Cc: Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>><br>
Subject: Biochar Friday at the start of ETHOS<br>
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Biochar Friday 2020 (The attachment is exactly like the message below, but is in .docx format.)<br>
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Dear all (but directed to those who deal with Biochar issues and/or who could be attending the ETHOS meeting in Kirkland, Washington on 24 - 26 January 2020),<br>
<br>
Within the regular attendees of ETHOS there is a "mini-sub-group" with an interest in biochar, especially the production of biochar such as with TLUD cookstoves and barrels and other small pyrolysis devices. Because we are together each year, it is proposed that we have a separate (but coordinated) meeting about biochar on the Friday (24 January this year) before ETHOS starts.<br>
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After some few comments from others via email, I have made the following arrangements for the Biochar Friday group:<br>
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1. The Biochar Friday group is to have its first gathering on 24 January 2020.<br>
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2. The meeting room of the Kirkland Inn (connected to the breakfast room) has been reserved for the morning of 24 January. ETHOS controls that meeting room from noon onward. (There is no option to meet at Shari's restaurant.)<br>
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3. We will gather at 8:00 AM, with an on-time official start at 9:00 AM. Tom Miles has offered to provide a summary of the status of international (and USA/North America) biochar activities (not just about the organizations called "Biochar Initiatives.") How much time he has will be determined after others have had a chance to make proposals for the use of the time. One additional topic could be the role of PyCC (Pyrolytic Carbon Capture) to assist the battle against climate change. Perhaps there will be some panel discussions, depending on who attends. It will NOT be with academic presentations. The focus is NOT on the agricultural / soil / micro-fauna / etc. aspects of biochar, but such can be mentioned.<br>
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4. We will ask ETHOS leadership if we can extend our time past noon, up to the time when ETHOS will have its use of the room (usually starting at 1:00 or 1:30 PM).<br>
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5. Because the Woodgas TLUD stoves are makers of charcoal / biochar, they could be featured in the afternoon time reserved for ETHOS, but that is up for discussion.<br>
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6. Upon expiration of any time for Biochar topics in the room, the Biochar Friday group is at liberty to move to another location (not defined). If the group is small, that will be easy. If numerous, we can be creative with specialty groups or focus groups.<br>
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So, the Biochar Friday event is now official. It is open to everyone. You can make your travel arrangements to allow your presence at the event. Remember to register for the ETHOS meeting (at <a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ethoscon.com</a><<a href="http://www.ethoscon.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ethoscon.com</a>> , and to reserve your room at the Baymont Inn at Seattle/Kirkland: 425-947-1030 (and say that you are with ETHOS.)<br>
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There is no charge for Biochar Friday but donations to cover the room rental (AM only) will be accepted at the event (unless we find a sponsor).<br>
<br>
This announcement is going to three (3) Listservs but could be forward to others by you: Biochar group, Stoves Listserv, tluds Listserv. And ETHOS could send it to its mailing list. Please reply to your respective listservs, but know that not everyone will see your replies. Especially if you expect to attend the Biochar Friday, be sure that I receive notification ( <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> ).<br>
<br>
I (we) are looking for some volunteers, but not sure what duties there are to be undertaken.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.drtlud.com</a>><br>
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> Skype: paultlud<br>
Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<br>
Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<br>
Go to: <a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.JuntosNFP.org</a><<a href="http://www.JuntosNFP.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.JuntosNFP.org</a>> to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<br>
incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<br>
and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<br>
Author of "A Capitalist Carol" (free digital copies at <a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.capitalism21.org</a><<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.capitalism21.org</a>>)<br>
with pages 88 - 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<br>
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